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hooskins 04-30-2006, 12:48 AM I might get crucified for posting this, but ... sometimes I think the flag etiquette thing gets a little out of hand. But I was never one to hold much reverance for symbols though anyway.
If you're in the military and you've spent a good part of your life adhering to strict regulations about the flag that's one thing, but come on -- it's not like Moses brought it down from Mount Sinai or anything. The NFL doesn't have to allow jack sh*t on their helmets if they don't want to.
I honestly am quite like you, Im not a big guy about symbols, even our flag. But if you are going to do something, do it right. Why do you think Army has their team with the flags the right way? American Football is great for what it is and when the sport shows pride for the great country its from, I guess they should do it the right way. Im sure you think im some kind of overly-conservative freak by making this arguement, but I am actually a crazy liberal minority. My whole pt is doing something about the flag the right way, automatically becomes too much, but it really shouldnt be. Just bc we do not know that this is how it should be, doesnt mean we shouldnt accept it. Just think of it this way, when you are holding a flag and walking, the stars will always be closer to the pole you are holding. So with the "stars should always be in front, bc america is moving forward" argument, it just makes sense, bc the stars will always be physically in front of everything else if we holding a flag. Maybe if the football players were spinning in clockwise circles then the current flag setup would be fine lol.
KLHJ2 04-19-2007, 03:15 AM Been well over a year now, and still no changes. Doesn't surprise me.
I actually had time to review all of the comments. For those that say that symbols are not important, what are you using to make words with on this forum? Symbols all stand for something. Some are good and some are bad.
While I am not asking you to worship it, I just want you to display it properly or not at all. Things that are seemingly harmless to you might be disrespectfull to others.
This is why I will never show the bottom of my foot to a Muslim.
hooskins 04-19-2007, 05:35 AM Yes, old threads...
dmek25 04-19-2007, 06:31 AM I'm all about the flag. and if its going to be displayed, I'm sure they looked into it before doing it. why not drop the skins an email and ask?
Schneed10 04-19-2007, 08:40 AM I agree with Daseal, this is getting too picky.
The flag is on there as support for our country as a whole, not just the military. The military has a view on how the flag should be displayed, but most people aren't tuned into those views. To most, the flag on the heads of the NFL players is just a nice show of support. Whether the stars are facing front or behind, I think 95% of the population couldn't care less. I don't mean to be flippant with the military's opinions, but honestly it's a non-issue to most people.
I might get crucified for posting this, but ... sometimes I think the flag etiquette thing gets a little out of hand. But I was never one to hold much reverance for symbols though anyway.
If you're in the military and you've spent a good part of your life adhering to strict regulations about the flag that's one thing, but come on -- it's not like Moses brought it down from Mount Sinai or anything. The NFL doesn't have to allow jack sh*t on their helmets if they don't want to.
I agree, non-issue in my book.
hagams 04-19-2007, 10:42 AM Schneed,
Agreed, I'm not to particular about this, but being military I do have respect for the Flag, and it's use. Please see below:
FEDERAL FLAG CODE:
PUBLIC LAW 94 - 344): para J:
(j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.
I have absolutly no problem with anyone showing support by wearing the flag, however if your going to do it, please do so properly. I'm constantly untangling flags that's been wrapped around poles at people's house, or letting them know how to display it properly (including my parents at my last home-coming party).
EARTHQUAKE2689 04-19-2007, 11:39 AM As a member of the U.S. military I pay close attention to uniforms on the football field. I think that it is great that all teams wear our flag on their helmets. It upsets me that they all wear it incorrectly with the excecption of the Army team. The reason that I say this is because the Stars of the Flag should always face foreword, because they never retreat. If you dont quite fully understand what I am talking about, then read on. Imagine that a players body is a flagpole and he is facing the enemy heading into battle. When he is viewed from the side the stars should be moving foreward. Since The traditional way that we View the flag is with the stars on the left, then that flag should be worn on the left side of the helmet. But all football teams wear them on the right (Army) excluded. If teams want to wear them on the right side as they do now, then they should get a reverse sided flag where the stars are on the right. You may have noticed that our soldiers wear the reversed sided flag on their right shoulders of their uniforms. I know that some of you will disagree with me and say that the flags are worn on the back of the helmet. No they are not because they are offset to the right rear of the helmet in which case the stars should be on the right when viewed. I am going to ask one of the admisistrators to start a petition to get flags across the country on the left side, the correct side of the helmet or get reverse sided flags for wear on the right.
good point
Monkeydad 04-19-2007, 11:45 AM Whether the stars are facing front or behind, I think 95% of the population couldn't care less. I don't mean to be flippant with the military's opinions, but honestly it's a non-issue to most people.
It's not just military code that dictates flag etiquette.
Ignorance, laziness or uneducation are no excuses for being disrespectful to the symbol of our nation.
If you're going to do it, educate yourself and do it properly. There ARE ways to display the flag that actually mean disrespect and hatred towards it.
Excellent points, angryssg and thanks for your service. http://www.rightnation.us/forums/style_emoticons/default/salute.gif
EARTHQUAKE2689 04-19-2007, 11:50 AM It's not just military code that dictates flag ediquette.
Ignorance, laziness or uneducation are no excuses for being disrespectful to the symbol of our nation.
If you're going to do it, educate yourself and do it properly. There ARE ways to display the flag that actually mean disrespect and hatred towards it.
Excellent points, angryssg and thanks for your service. http://www.rightnation.us/forums/style_emoticons/default/salute.gif
yeah appreciate it
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