Gibbs vs. Spurrier -- stats about even?

Spurrier was a joke. Gibbs is a legend. No matter how Gibbs' tenure figures there is NO comparison. Sorry folks, none. 'What have you done for me lately' is shortened to 'what have you done'. End of discussion.

ramsey just needs a new home. i'm willing to bet that he could revive his career with another franchise. certainly he's no mark brunell... but the ravens, lions, jets, dolphins, and maybe some others could use him. i don't think the nfl has seen the last of Ramsey as a starter.

Spurrier was a joke. Gibbs is a legend. No matter how Gibbs' tenure figures there is NO comparison. Sorry folks, none. 'What have you done for me lately' is shortened to 'what have you done'. End of discussion.

amen...

I'll never forget what Spurrier said on his last Coach's Radio Show on 980am.. The last question he was asked was :

"Coach is there anything optimistic you can say to the fans for next year?"

OBC "Welp..............not much"

I remember hearing that with my dad on the way down to their final game. We looked at each other and said that doesn't sound like a guy who's coming back next year.

Another thing to consider is that under Spurrier the team regressed from year one to two in spite of ostensibly improving its talent level, whereas with Gibbs the team has definately gotten better in spite of losing several key players. So I think its misleading to look at the aggregate two year stats for both coaches and act as if they are equal, when clearly the coaches moved the teams in different directions during season two.

I remember hearing that with my dad on the way down to their final game. We looked at each other and said that doesn't sound like a guy who's coming back next year.

Yeah, but the thing about that comment was that it turned out to be true. The Skins did one game better after he left. That's grasping for optimism if you ask me.

Another thing to consider is that under Spurrier the team regressed from year one to two in spite of ostensibly improving its talent level, whereas with Gibbs the team has definately gotten better in spite of losing several key players. So I think its misleading to look at the aggregate two year stats for both coaches and act as if they are equal, when clearly the coaches moved the teams in different directions during season two.

I don't know that the Skins were all that much improved talent wise from 2002 to 2003, the two game difference proves that. If you look at the stats from each of the two years that TAFKAS posted, you'll see that Spurrier suffered from a bad defense especially when Marvin Lewis left.

One more thing, season two for Gibbs isn't over yet...

Im tired of hearing about the ruining of patrick ramsey. WTF!!! was he joe montana or john elway and spurrier became coach and made him patrick ramsey?

the irony is that spurrier put everyone in a passing route while gibbs is putting everyone to block and they both are about even statistically.


Those are the best points of this thread. Everybody said that Ramsey was basically poisoned by Spurrier, and now, suddenly, it turns out that maybe PR just isn't a good quarterback.

:rolleyes:

To me, the pass protection similarities are the most disturbing of all. By this point, shouldn't the offensive line have established itself as one of the most dominant in the league? Or would that be an "unrealistic expectation" ??

I personally fell in love with ramsey during the titans game his rookie year. we were behind big and ramsey comes in and takes monster shots but keeps tossing the ball around. He is Tough and Strong. Unfortunately he is as dumb as dog shit.

There's my vote for quote of the year.

To me, the pass protection similarities are the most disturbing of all. By this point, shouldn't the offensive line have established itself as one of the most dominant in the league? Or would that be an "unrealistic expectation" ??

I didn't really expect them to be a top 5 oline... but I sure thought they'd be doing a bit better than what i've seen. Sometimes there are monster plays, other times, samuels just quits blocking midplay and oops... sack.

It took a year to fix our crappy kick coverage issues... maybe it another year before our oline turns it on full force?