Gibbs vs. Spurrier -- stats about even?

What disturbed me about Spurrier was the lackadasical approach he had to coaching. From his initial comments about other NFL coaches working too hard, to not knowing the names of his own players, to Jansen stating they didn't even have gameplans week to week.

Spurrier's teams didn't show 1/4 of the heart and fight that Gibbs' teams have, and that all starts with the mentality that the head coach instills in the team.

That's the bottom line. Gibbs is getting max effort from every one of these guys. Gibbs has actually spent the better part of his first 2 years UN-doing the culture that Spurrier created while he was here, and he's done a great job.

That's the bottom line. Gibbs is getting max effort from every one of these guys. Gibbs has actually spent the better part of his first 2 years UN-doing the culture that Spurrier created while he was here, and he's done a great job.
Well said

Just more hatin' on ol' Joe Gibbs. If it was up to the fans, we'd have a different coach and quarterback each week.Thats a new idea we could have coach and QB by committee. Every Monday all the players and front office could vote for QB, head coach, offensive and deffensive coach and they would run pratice and the game on Sunday. If we win they keep their jobs for another week and if we loose we have another vote on Monday. They could even have 25% of the vote come from fans that would log on to the Skins site and cast their votes.

You can find stats to support any argument. However, all you need to do is watch the games (which I am pretty sure we all do here) to see which team is more competitive and which is headed in the right direction. Spurriers teams were an absolute mess. The last few weeks have been rough, but with the possible exception of the Giants game Gibbs has had this team putting forth maximum effort with every player on board every single week. They all believe in Gibbs and are united as a team. I just never felt that way under Spurrier. The wins are going to follow eventually...

You can find stats to support any argument. However, all you need to do is watch the games (which I am pretty sure we all do here) to see which team is more competitive and which is headed in the right direction. Spurriers teams were an absolute mess.

Agreed.

matty why dont you run a poll to see who the fans want to coach the skins?my vote goes to coach gibbs,no question.ill take him against anyone,bar none

Just more hatin' on ol' Joe Gibbs. If it was up to the fans, we'd have a different coach and quarterback each week.
a) Most people supported Gibbs.
b) Gibbs has a much better staff around him.
c) We have much improved players from Spurrier's stint. If a team with Trung Candidate (see McDonalds drive through) can average 111 yards on the ground that says something.

I think as fans we should look objectively at our coaches. While everyone was willing to give Spurrier another year, you sure as hell weren't spouting the "I trust the coach" type crap that every thread has twenty boring posts filled with.

This coaching staff isn't doing any better than Spurrier, and I must say. That's disappointing. Hopefully one more year will turn the tide.

a) Most people supported Gibbs.
b) Gibbs has a much better staff around him.
c) We have much improved players from Spurrier's stint. If a team with Trung Candidate (see McDonalds drive through) can average 111 yards on the ground that says something.

I think as fans we should look objectively at our coaches. While everyone was willing to give Spurrier another year, you sure as hell weren't spouting the "I trust the coach" type crap that every thread has twenty boring posts filled with.

This coaching staff isn't doing any better than Spurrier, and I must say. That's disappointing. Hopefully one more year will turn the tide.

Coach Gibbs has earned our trust with having prior experience and success in the NFL. Steve Spurrier had no prior experience or success in the NFL. It's not that hard to figure out why people trust Joe Gibbs over Steve Spurrier, regardless of the current accumlated win-loss stat.

Of course it's disappointing that we're slumping. It's disappointing to me that we don't win the Super Bowl every year. Luckily, we have a coaching staff who is willing to put for the work ethic that it takes to turn things around. Steve Spurrier wasn't winning to do that.

Of course we didn't trust Spurrier, why should we have?

Gibbs has the resume and trophies, along with that comes trust and much respect.

You can find stats to support any argument. However, all you need to do is watch the games (which I am pretty sure we all do here) to see which team is more competitive and which is headed in the right direction. Spurriers teams were an absolute mess. The last few weeks have been rough, but with the possible exception of the Giants game Gibbs has had this team putting forth maximum effort with every player on board every single week. They all believe in Gibbs and are united as a team. I just never felt that way under Spurrier. The wins are going to follow eventually...

No one disputes that Spurrier's team was an absolute mess. The point of this thread was to demonstrate that even while Gibbs' team is putting forth its "maximum effort", there's been only the slightest improvement.

I'm not even sure you can use the term 'improvement' with the way this team has performed lately.