Joe Gibbs is the man

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#56fanatic
11-30-2005, 11:59 AM
In no way would I question Joe as being a great COACH, coach being the key word. He is a great person, and knows how to build a championship team in racing. He is a great motivator and family man. there is not question as a person no one was created equal!! He is still learing the NEW NFL, and I do agree it takes more than 1 or so years to make any improvements. Which, to date since Dan took over, we have not had the same staff in place more than 2 years. It will be nice to see if Joe can guide this franchise in the right direction by building a team concept through the draft and KEY pick ups, not just name pickups. Then again, we dont have a 1st rounder next year so again free agency is going to play a part in our offseason. The draft is far more important that Dan likes to think, and hopefully Joe can get that point across for any future coaches and staffs that replace him once he calls it quits.


Thank god we have a person of his quality on our sidelines. It has been a long time waiting!

amorentz
11-30-2005, 12:15 PM
said it before and say it again,"IN GIBBS WE TRUST".

He is the best coach would could possibly have.

End of discussion.

I couldnt agree more! I love seeing these spirited posts...makes me remember that we have the best fans in the game!!! I am proud to count myself among you guys!!!

dblanch66
11-30-2005, 12:33 PM
All true stuff. Gibbs is just as unhappy about where the team is now as we are. More so, probably. I think he is committed to taking this team all the way and will be here for his entire contract and maybe even beyond if that's what it takes. I think Williams will also stay until the job is done. I love this coaching staff. The team is not great yet, but it will be...it will be.

Hog1
11-30-2005, 12:34 PM
Then why is it fair to judge coaches, such as Spurrier, that come up from college the way he was? I will give any coach three years to show me promise that the club is improving. Gibbs clock management has been infinitely better (as Malcolm and I talked about this morning) but he still has a lot of flaws that need to be addressed this offseason.

Because Spurrier quit! Walked away! Not to mention, the team seemed to be in constant turmoil, in and out of the locker room. His methods didn't seem to make sense from an NFL prospective. His blocking scheme acumen damned near got Ramsey killed. There was no sign of forward movement, just horizontal. Much to my disappointment at the time, dude was a clown, a charlatan, a carpet bagger, and those other bad things I cannot think of at the moment.

railcon56
11-30-2005, 12:34 PM
Then why is it fair to judge coaches, such as Spurrier, that come up from college the way he was? I will give any coach three years to show me promise that the club is improving. Gibbs clock management has been infinitely better (as Malcolm and I talked about this morning) but he still has a lot of flaws that need to be addressed this offseason.
I am willing to give this coaching staff 1 more year listening to lavar on the radio yesterday he was talking about the changes and wanting 3 years together...so 1 am gonna hang with them 1 more year.....(not that i have an say lol) and..hopefully it will be this year.... Lavar turned out to be the standup guy i knew he was ...and a true reskins and if u go to the fed ex u will by far see more lavar #56 jersey's than any other he is by far the most popular redskin

skinnyfan
11-30-2005, 01:47 PM
it takes patience. some of us just don't have it. we can cheer for the colts to go undefeated if we ever get mathematically eliminated.

Patient?? Patient?? We have been bad for over 13 years! One playoff appearance in about 13 years?? Patience you say. Look at the Bears and Tampa....who were just plain bad last year.......playing Orton and Simms respectively......and are good solid football teams this year. Patience.....I don't know if you've noticed, but patience is not something the NFL is predicated on.

#56fanatic
11-30-2005, 02:56 PM
Patient?? Patient?? We have been bad for over 13 years! One playoff appearance in about 13 years?? Patience you say. Look at the Bears and Tampa....who were just plain bad last year.......playing Orton and Simms respectively......and are good solid football teams this year. Patience.....I don't know if you've noticed, but patience is not something the NFL is predicated on.

the redskins and Dan the man are certainly not based on patience. I dont know if they know what that means. Which is why we do the same crap every offseason. throw draft picks away, pay too much money for players in their 30's and some in the mid 30's.

HTTR
11-30-2005, 03:39 PM
This franchise became plainly disfunctional after JKC's passing. Snyder brought a mentality of (1) thinking he knew more about football than he did, (2) impatience (win now at any cost with overpriced veterans), and (3) Vinny must be good cause he wears starched white shirts, suspenders, and likes my cigars.

Into this pathological mix comes Joe Gibbs, who has to reassemble a staff from scratch, re-learn certain aspects of the game and flat out learn how to beat our division rivals . . . and . . . fit into a Snyder-Cerrato led front office (the very people screwing up the team over recent years).

Maybe there's more needed here than just Gibbs, even though I trust him to keep steadily improving the team. (Have I mentioned VC?)

Southpaw
11-30-2005, 03:42 PM
I am perfectly willing to wait a few years for Gibbs to get the team straight, and molded the way he wants, but my main concern is his patience level. If he were in his mid 50's, it wouldn't be out of the ordinary for him to coach 10+ years, but he's 64. He's not going to be wanting to deal with the 80 hour weeks, grueling all night film sessions, and constantly being under the media microscope for too much longer. I'm thinking he has two or three more seasons left in him at the most.

skinsguy
11-30-2005, 06:01 PM
Then why is it fair to judge coaches, such as Spurrier, that come up from college the way he was? I will give any coach three years to show me promise that the club is improving. Gibbs clock management has been infinitely better (as Malcolm and I talked about this morning) but he still has a lot of flaws that need to be addressed this offseason.

I think the biggest thing with Spurrier is how he just gave up after two years. He also didn't seem to be willing to put in the hours it takes to succeed in the NFL (being on the golf course as much as possible during the season.) I think he's a great college coach with a great offensive mind, but Gibbs is better at total team management. Even though that second season was horrible, if Spurrier would have stuck it out and went the third season, I would have supported him and would have hoped he would have made the changes to correct whatever problems we had (which were quite a few,) but unfortunately, he decided to hang it up before then.

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