Holding Penalty (in general)

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Daseal
11-28-2005, 01:09 PM
Am I alone in thinking that 10 yards is a bit stiff for holding? This is a penelty that can be called in every single play of professional football and it sets you back 10 yards. In my opinion this is a 5 yarder.

irish
11-28-2005, 01:13 PM
Just when I thought I'd seen it all, now a complaint about how much a holding penalty costs a team. Amazing.

Stacks42
11-28-2005, 01:16 PM
I am with you on this one, A stupid holding call can change the whole flow of the game, as it did yesterday. Five yards would be a much better suited penalty for a hold. And the holding calls are so subjective, there is no doubt that Rabach held (what a moron) but also on the last play of the game, our best defensive player was blatantly held (taylor) it wasnt a one or two second hold, he was held until LT was at the 20 yd line, go back and check it out, the ref was looking right at him but chose not to make the call. It just seems to me that the skins get these calls at the most in opportune time, its either bad coaching, or those evil refs really do have it out for us.

Daseal
11-28-2005, 01:26 PM
Irish - this has nothing to do with the Rabach thing. It's a step in moving past the Chargers loss. I've been thinking about this for weeks. I simply think for a call that's as common as holding ten yards is pretty stiff.

firstdown
11-28-2005, 01:33 PM
If it was only five I think you would see more players holding than given up a sack. Most sacks are over a five yard loss but less than ten most of the time. This would give a lineman a reason to hold and take a five yard penalty than to not hold and give up an 8 yard sack. Ten yards is the correct amount.

#56fanatic
11-28-2005, 01:34 PM
Irish - I am with you. Skins fans will find something to bitch about the next day after a loss. Instead of the true statement that should accompany most post. "we lost, straight up, we lost" no fantam call, no fumble, no ref cost us the game, or a holding penalty being to harsh of a distance call, just say it " WE LOST"

FirstandTen
11-28-2005, 01:37 PM
Irish - I am with you. Skins fans will find something to bitch about the next day after a loss. Instead of the true statement that should accompany most post. "we lost, straight up, we lost" no fantam call, no fumble, no ref cost us the game, or a holding penalty being to harsh of a distance call, just say it " WE LOST"

we lost

#56fanatic
11-28-2005, 01:38 PM
we lost

Thank You, how refreshing that is to hear!!

Stacks42
11-28-2005, 01:40 PM
If it was only five I think you would see more players holding than given up a sack. Most sacks are over a five yard loss but less than ten most of the time. This would give a lineman a reason to hold and take a five yard penalty than to not hold and give up an 8 yard sack. Ten yards is the correct amount.


Good point, Im still not thinking clearly. Just wished things would have turned out differently, trying to justify another loss in my own mind. Point well taken

Redskins_P
11-28-2005, 01:55 PM
Irish - I am with you. Skins fans will find something to bitch about the next day after a loss. Instead of the true statement that should accompany most post. "we lost, straight up, we lost" no fantam call, no fumble, no ref cost us the game, or a holding penalty being to harsh of a distance call, just say it " WE LOST"


56fanatic, I think Daseal was just trying to point out that the 10 yds for holding was a little bit of a stiff penalty. He's not making any excuses.

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