(Merged Thread) Overreacting to a loss

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Sheriff Gonna Getcha
11-28-2005, 01:39 AM
I didn't mean to sound confused as to why people would be upset. I also didn't mean to sound angry about people who were upset. Sorry if I didn't communicate myself better.

Southpaw
11-28-2005, 01:40 AM
I know some of you will think I'm being way too optimistic, but show me a game where you really think we can't win...

Looking at the fact that this team has managed to drop six of their last eight games, I'd have to say that you are definitely being waaaay to optimistic. This is the same pattern that this team has followed every season,for the past decade. They'll be lucky to win two of the last five, and that's if they can squeak by the Rams.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
11-28-2005, 01:42 AM
Looking at the fact that this team has managed to drop six of their last eight games, I'd have to say that you are definitely being waaaay to optimistic. This is the same pattern that this team has followed every season,for the past decade. They'll be lucky to win two of the last five, and that's if they can squeak by the Rams.

You really think the Cardinals, Rams, and Eagles are going to put up a stiff fight? I see them being fairly close, but I don't think we should have a lot of difficulty squeezing two wins out of those three games.

As for the G-men and Dallas, we're facing them at home. I think we have a shot of winning one of those games.

mooby
11-28-2005, 01:44 AM
I will say, the Redskins are gonna win their next five and magically make the playoffs. Realistically, the Cowboys and Giants are too good to make the mistakes we've been making the past few weeks. We can easily give up this game against the Rams, because we have a penchant for giving up big plays on defense, and Torry Holt is well known for making big plays, as is Isaac Bruce. I still have hope than in the next week, we will be able to fix our past mistakes and be a complete team. But i figured after our loss to Tampa Bay a couple weeks ago we'd light the fire under the team and get them cracking. It didn't happen last week against the Raiders. After that week i figured we would finally get the mistakes figured out and be the complete team in time for this week. Lo and behold, we didn't fix the mistakes in time for the Chargers. I guess what i'm trying to say is I'm tired of waiting for us to fix our mistakes in time for next week. Maybe the optimism is gone from me, I don't know. I do know that this team is good enough to win every game on their remaining schedule, but i don't know that we can fix the mistakes in time.

Longtimefan
11-28-2005, 01:53 AM
It would be great to see some of these players begin taking these losses as hard, and as much to heart as we the fans do. It's difficult not to express your frustration when you continue to loose close games the same way week in and week out espically when you have every opportunity to win. I don't know if it's as much overreacting as it is frustrating, and we all know that we as fans have had enough of loosing these close games every week. Until the loosing stops, fans are always feel the need to vent following this lack of inspired play at too many critical times in games.

Southpaw
11-28-2005, 01:57 AM
You really think the Cardinals, Rams, and Eagles are going to put up a stiff fight? I see them being fairly close, but I don't think we should have a lot of difficulty squeezing two wins out of those three games.

As for the G-men and Dallas, we're facing them at home. I think we have a shot of winning one of those games.

I'm impressed that you can remain so positive, but the Skins are not going to magically right the ship, and reel off four or five wins in the final five weeks. Of their six losses, they should have won, or at least had a chance to win five of them, but as has been the case for several years, they're unable to close games at the end of the season. They had no business losing any of the last three games, but yet, they managed to give it away at the end.

And I'm surprised that you think the Rams will be a cakewalk in St. Louis. They have one of the best young backs in the league, in addition to two pro bowl wide receivers. Washington has proven in the last few weeks that they cannot stop anybody when it matters.

heybigstar
11-28-2005, 02:00 AM
Im too lazy to quote this thread from the first one , but "Portis Sucks"

Good point. Well Portis doesn't suck, but he is only slightly above average. He dropped a TD pass, and is not durable enough to break for big plays if he doesnt have a good #2 back complimenting him. The second highest paid Rb in the league? He doesnt make amazing plays, he is solid and thats it. Someone show me stats from his time as a Redskin to prove me wrong.

Southpaw
11-28-2005, 02:12 AM
Im too lazy to quote this thread from the first one , but "Portis Sucks"

Good point. Well Portis doesn't suck, but he is only slightly above average. He dropped a TD pass, and is not durable enough to break for big plays if he doesnt have a good #2 back complimenting him. The second highest paid Rb in the league? He doesnt make amazing plays, he is solid and thats it. Someone show me stats from his time as a Redskin to prove me wrong.

You guys that think "Portis sucks" need to try watching NFL Matchup, or one of the other shows that actually run game film. Tomlinson, Alexander, and Tiki Barber all have lines that create holes that an 18 wheeler could drive though. How many times a game is Portis actually able to get to the second level untouched? Twice, maybe? Anytime he does get a decent hole, he gets 8-12 yards on the carry, so I have a hard time blaming his lack of success between the tackles completely on him.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
11-28-2005, 02:13 AM
Im too lazy to quote this thread from the first one , but "Portis Sucks"

Good point. Well Portis doesn't suck, but he is only slightly above average. He dropped a TD pass, and is not durable enough to break for big plays if he doesnt have a good #2 back complimenting him. The second highest paid Rb in the league? He doesnt make amazing plays, he is solid and thats it. Someone show me stats from his time as a Redskin to prove me wrong.

He'll likely have 2,600 to 2,700 yards in his first two years as a Redskin. That is pretty damn impressive; regardless of what he racked up in Denver. While he's not the 2nd best running back in the league, he's probably the 2nd back I'd take in the league (Tomlinson being the 1st). People think of his contract in today's NFL dollars. That's the wrong approach.

First, Portis, unlike James or other great backs in the NFL today, is 24. 24 years old is damn young, in fact there are a lot of rookie running backs who are 24.

Second, there are a lot of great backs in the NFL who aren't as versatile as Portis. I bet you will be very hard pressed to find a running back that can pick up blocks, catch passes out of the backfield or from the line, or make plays like Portis can. Either they are great runners (i.e. Larry Johnson) or they are great receivers (i.e. Westbrook) or they are great blockers, but rarely do you find a back that can do all of the above.

Third, if you look at guys like Alexander, Johnson, or James, Portis isn't running behind the kind of offensive lines or offenses that they are. You'll be hard pressed to find a back that is posting the kind of numbers that Portis is in an offense that is as inconsistent as ours. The only ones who comes close are Willis McGahee and Reuben Droughns and I'd take Portis over either of those two in a heartbeat.

Fourth, Portis has a great attitude; he's a "team" guy despite his antics. Shaun Alexander threw a hissy fit because he was one yard behind Curtis Martin for the rushing title last year.

You find me a 24 year old back, who can catch, run, block, and even pass who can run behind a mediocre offense without griping and then I'll consider the trade to be a bad one. Until then, Portis is a stud in my book.

Skinnydo
11-28-2005, 10:18 AM
I think you are RIGHT ON!!! The Skins will definitely WIN-OUT and be in the playoffs. And we will not be disappointed in the post season results.

Hey guys, I've been away for a while, but upon my return it seems like everyone is really down in the dumps, which is perfectly understandable.

But I've been having a look at some remaining schedules, and I think we still have a realistic shot.

We should definitely take these next two games against the Rams and Cards, and that leaves us 7-6 with the 'Boys coming in.

Win that, and we're 8-6 with the G-Men coming in.

Win that, and we're 9-6 going into Philly against a depleted Eagles team.

Win that, and we're 10-6, and headed to the playoffs.

I truly think that it can be done. Don't ask yourself "Do I think this team will win 5 straight," That is too macro, and it's depressing. If you are seeking positivity, ask yourself "Do I think this team will beat the Rams ?" and "Do I think this team will beat the Cardinals?" etc.

In all honesty, there is not a game in the upcoming 5 where I think we are unlikely to win. That's crucial. We are just as or more talented than these other teams, and if we can put it all together, we have a damn shot at this thing.

I know some of you will think I'm being way too optimistic, but show me a game where you really think we can't win...

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