Play Calling

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MTK
11-29-2005, 01:04 PM
What does Brunell have to do with anything?

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
11-29-2005, 02:55 PM
Good story in the WashPost today about how the Skins' play calling late in the fourth quarter has cost us games. It also points out that the offense has regressed recently to the point of being as ineffective as last year's squad.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/28/AR2005112801935.html

I don't value the opinions of Post columnists any more than I do my girlfriend's. To say that our offense is as bad as last year's is a MASSIVE overstatement.

hail_2_da_skins
11-29-2005, 03:16 PM
I disagree. Portis is paid like a top five back and I don't see the production. He has turned the ball over too much and its affecting his running style. He seems to be concentrating on "not fumbling" and not instinctively hitting the holes at full speed and using his vision and allusiveness to run to daylight. With the same personnel, same blocking, Betts and Cartwright seem to run harder at hit the hole at full speed and have better success. Neither Betts or Cartwright are breakaway runners so these runs very rarely go the distance. Portis is a breakaway runner. He is not hitting the holes hard. I see him avoiding contact, falling prematurely and running into the back of his blockers. In the fourth quarter, Gibbs called his number repeatedly. He didn't deliver. I saw Marty do the same with LT and he delivered.

Twilbert07
11-29-2005, 03:20 PM
I don't value the opinions of Post columnists any more than I do my girlfriend's. To say that our offense is as bad as last year's is a MASSIVE overstatement.
I guess we'll see who's right at season's end. I hope you're right and Wilbon is wrong, trust me.
The past three games, when the offense could not add even 3 points to a small lead, have been hard to stomach, though.

skindogger47
11-29-2005, 04:10 PM
Are you kidding? You dont pass the ball when you are in the range they were in. that would be totally stupid. You do exactly what they did. Run the ball, set up your kicker where he kicks the best. Good teams dont commit penalties in those situations. GOOD TEAMS, which we are far from it.How are we so far from being a "good" team? The Seahawks did that against us, are they any good? What about the Bears, who managed one TD against us off of an Antonio Brown fumble? Or the Bucs, who squandered a lead against us? Hell the Broncos couldn't hold a lead against us. They must suck. How are we so far from being good? I feel like it is a play or two every game, which could easily go either way. We are not great, but I'll be damned if we're not good.

skindogger47
11-29-2005, 04:14 PM
Are we watching to same team. Every year they are trading away picks for people. Every year since 1999 we have signed a number of free agents and drafted horrible, with some of them being cut before the season starts. The first thing the "organization" needs to do is hire a general manager. Bring Ron Wolf out of retirement, he is a local guy that would not have to travel so much. What about Bobby Bethard? Joe needs to stick to coaching and stop making personel moves. Danny is in no way going to say no to what Joe is asking for, whether its a good move or bad move. Joe is a great coach, but very few great coaches can be both a coach and GM. and some have failed miserably. Once we get a front office in place the team will show some improvement, but as long as Danny, Vinney, and Pepper Rogers are making personel moves, we will continue to falter the way we have since Danny took over. GMs are highly underrated in todays NFL, but look at how well teams like New England, Philly, Dallas, Chicago, Cincinnati, Giants are doing. All those teams draft talent to build a team, then maybe add a key free agent here or there. Not 6 to 7 started on both sides of the ball every year. This year is the first year I can remember we didn't actually go out and sign every big name out there, but we did not draft too well. We needed a #2 receiver and Mike Williams was available, we could have drafter a corner with our 2nd round pick. Even if you wanted Campbell that bad, he was still going to be there in the 2nd round. Look at the two or three DE that were available when we picked. Look at what they are doing in Dallas. I rest my case, we need a GM.Cincinnatti drafted Carson Palmer and now their GM is a genius? Those are the tough decisions that great front offices make, huh? Also, we didn't have a second round pick. I rest my case, you don't know what you're talking about.

offiss
11-29-2005, 09:13 PM
I disagree. Portis is paid like a top five back and I don't see the production. He has turned the ball over too much and its affecting his running style. He seems to be concentrating on "not fumbling" and not instinctively hitting the holes at full speed and using his vision and allusiveness to run to daylight. With the same personnel, same blocking, Betts and Cartwright seem to run harder at hit the hole at full speed and have better success. Neither Betts or Cartwright are breakaway runners so these runs very rarely go the distance. Portis is a breakaway runner. He is not hitting the holes hard. I see him avoiding contact, falling prematurely and running into the back of his blockers. In the fourth quarter, Gibbs called his number repeatedly. He didn't deliver. I saw Marty do the same with LT and he delivered.


Absolutly! Nice job H2. :biggthump

skinsguy
11-29-2005, 10:23 PM
This year's team definitely is an improvement over last year's.

However, this trend of losing close games (after winning the first three) is very disturbing and shows that something with the team is extremely flawed. We need to find out exactly what's wrong, or we're in for more a couple more seasons without going to the playoffs.

I wouldn't say that losing those close games means that something is extremely flawed. If we lost those games by 14 points or more, then I would say something is extremely flawed. Losing games by 2 or 3 points, late in the fourth quarter is distressing, but I don't believe it means that something is way wrong. This team is still going through transition, like it or not. I believe we're expecting this team to be Super Bowl champions right from the start.

Twilbert07
11-29-2005, 11:00 PM
I wouldn't say that losing those close games means that something is extremely flawed. If we lost those games by 14 points or more, then I would say something is extremely flawed. Losing games by 2 or 3 points, late in the fourth quarter is distressing, but I don't believe it means that something is way wrong. This team is still going through transition, like it or not. I believe we're expecting this team to be Super Bowl champions right from the start.
Maybe saying "extremely flawed" was a little, well, extreme.
However, something is wrong, and it seems to be getting worse in the past couple weeks. Trust me, I do not expect us to go to the Super Bowl this year or next. I just want us to continue to make progress toward that goal. Unfortunately in the past three weeks, we've moved in the wrong direction.

railcon56
11-30-2005, 02:00 AM
Just like last week, and the week before . :biggthump
Or his substitute son Brunell

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