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Sheriff Gonna Getcha 11-27-2005, 06:47 PM I thought this was the year for the offensive line to finally come together. Chris Samuels, an up-and-coming Derrick Dockery, a solid right guard in Randy Thomas alongside Jon Jansen, with the best available center in the free agent market in Casey Rabach -- all blocking for Clinton Portis? I was practically drooling after hearing that lineup.
But it just hasn't happened. Rabach was supposed to be the final piece of the puzzle. Portis was supposed to be making plays like L.T. is making. Gibbs and Bugel were supposed to resurrect the Hogs and call the plays that pound opponents into submission. Nope. It just ain't happenin'.
The D-line on the other hand, well ... let's just say I saw this coming.
If we get another wideout, I think a lot of the questions about our offense will disappear.
Bushead 11-27-2005, 06:50 PM How would another Wideout help Run Blocking?
skinsguy 11-27-2005, 06:50 PM I thought this was the year for the offensive line to finally come together. Chris Samuels, an up-and-coming Derrick Dockery, a solid right guard in Randy Thomas alongside Jon Jansen, with the best available center in the free agent market in Casey Rabach -- all blocking for Clinton Portis? I was practically drooling after hearing that lineup.
But it just hasn't happened. Rabach was supposed to be the final piece of the puzzle. Portis was supposed to be making plays like L.T. is making. Gibbs and Bugel were supposed to resurrect the Hogs and call the plays that pound opponents into submission. Nope. It just ain't happenin'.
The D-line on the other hand, well ... let's just say I saw this coming.
I do see more improvement with our offensive line as opposed to last year. I do believe Jansen being out last year really hurt us. However, our offensive line is definitely not the OL like the hogs were. That was a special group! Some games they're perfect, other games they're not. But most definitely, our defensive line needs improvement. The only guy I really like is Griffin.
Paintrain 11-27-2005, 06:54 PM If I could just jump in here, I think the critical mistake started when Snyder kicked out Schottenheimer. With just a few better offensive playmakers, that could have been a playoff year. He just may have had this team on the right track.
As I said earlier, I fondly remember the 1st Gibbs era and supported him this term as well.. That being said, I agree that it was a critical mistake to fire Schott and then he compounded ot not by hiring Spurrier but by NOT hiring Marvin Lewis as HC. Can't do anything about that now, but looking back it hurt the franchise tremendously..
maybe its the coaching staff keeping us close and we dont have great talent you ever think of that paintrain?
I don't know that we have "great talent" but NFL observers always say that the Redskins are very talented on both sides of the ball. We have numerous players on both sides of the ball who have been pro-bowlers.. There are very few times that I think the Redskins step onto the field and they are out-manned from a talent perspective. But there have been at least 5 games where they were out-coached and out executed (Denver-execution, NYG-coaching & execution, Tampa-coaching, Oakland-coaching, SD-coaching & execution). That's inexcusable.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 11-27-2005, 06:59 PM How would another Wideout help Run Blocking?
Because our passing game would be better and defenses wouldn't be stacking the box (as the Chargers did today).
railcon56 11-27-2005, 08:30 PM I've been one that's preached 'trust the coaches' all season and that I trusted Gibbs judgment explicitly but today's loss and the last month in general I think it's time to really question some things..
Playcalling-Terrible decisions on offense with the plays.. Too many conservative playcalls. It seems like there are like 8 total plays in the playbook. When I can sit on my couch in Miami and call the plays before they happen an NFL coach can surely predict the same. Too conservative, playing not to lose=losing football. I'm convinced that this coaching staff is not the right group to get us back to the top. We have better offensive talent than teams scoring 24-31 pts a week but we are not getting it done. That's flat out coaching and execution but it all starts on the sidelines.
Defensive playcalling-Same thing, why did we stop blitzing? 3 & 4 man rushes against an offensive line that was allowing pressure all day when the blitz came? Other than Harris the DBs played exceptionally well for most of the game, why not let them give them a chance to make a play?
Roster decisions-Derrick Frost is awful, worst punter in the league.. Walt Harris has been terrible since October, why is he still playing?? WR depth was a problem coming out of training camp but how can we not have a WR on the practice squad instead of Jimmy Farris who was out of football last week and the #3 WR this week?
Very frustrated and with no #1 pick and up against the cap this offseason I can't say that I'm even looking forward to that anymore..
AMEN
railcon56 11-27-2005, 08:31 PM It's not like it's all that different from Gibbs' first run as coach. I mean you knew when they were going to go with the Jumbo offense, or run the counter-tre, or do a bootleg. Not the most extensive playbook, but with a lot of motion and different formations. The key is to execute it well enough that even if they know it's coming they can't stop it. Like Stockton-Malone's pick-and roll
Yep except this is 2005 not 1979
railcon56 11-27-2005, 08:32 PM you guys act like we are getting destroyed in these games when they are all close down to the wire we have a good team here we are making stupid mistakes
We lost thats the bottom line whether it's by 55 or 1 point a Loss is A Loss
railcon56 11-27-2005, 08:34 PM It's time for the youth movement on the coaching staff. As much as we all love Joe Gibbs, at this point in his return, he has the exact same record as Steve Spurrier had after 27 games. And Gregg Williams is showing why his stint was so short in Buffalo: he couldn't hold the lead. Let's start anew next year.
We should have two goals for the rest of the season: beat Dallas and see what J. Campbell can do. It can't hurt at this point, when we're a less-than-average team.
LMAO finally!!! I knew this guy wasnt the genius everybody made him out to be
SUNRA 11-27-2005, 08:42 PM Portis is suppose to be making the plays L.T. did today. That is my biggest dissapointment from the coaching staff. They are obviously not using him wisely.
You know bushead, my buddy said the same exact thing. When you have a real RB running the ball it's academics. Portis has done this over and over. He doesn't seem to get stronger down the stretch. He fades into the background after half time. Now what really pisses me off is the fact that Gibbs won't play Nehemiah Broughton or any other RB when Portis is tired. Even Cartwright should have gotten the ball in the fourth quarter.
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