Who's a Better Coach: Gibbs or Schottenheimer?

Then why bother with the 'lol' unless you're doing helium or just all giggly? That's not opening the board up to discussion, it's just going to rile people up who are already pissed.

You may just want to **** off to your own discussion board and amuse yourself there.

Well, last week I did not use the 'lol' and people were even more pissed off, so I had to do something different.

And I never stated anything. I posted a topic in the subject and then 'discuss' meaning to *gasp* DISCUSS!!!

This is a discussion forum.

if we had lt we could make some runs too whoopy do da day
nothin against portis lt is just the best

Look. Our defense held this offense all day long, and when it comes to the point in the game where it counts to most to hold them, they don't get the job done. Then of course, we just saw what happened in overtime. That is all on the defense. They made some good plays, but they made some stupid mistakes as well. If you're going to nip pick about the offense, you must also be aware of the mistakes the defense made as well. This is on the defense.

I was asking Cpayne about this, and I'll ask the rest of you. Are these guys lacking the stamina to play aggressive for 4 quarters? I mean I'd hate to say they're conditioned poorly but sometimes I wonder if that isn't one of the problems

Well, last week I did not use the 'lol' and people were even more pissed off, so I had to do something different.

And I never stated anything. I posted a topic in the subject and then 'discuss' meaning to *gasp* DISCUSS!!!

This is a discussion forum.

Last time I check "Marty Schottenheimer is better than Joe Gibbs" IS a statement.

Well, last week I did not use the 'lol' and people were even more pissed off, so I had to do something different.

And I never stated anything. I posted a topic in the subject and then 'discuss' meaning to *gasp* DISCUSS!!!

This is a discussion forum.

When you post the title as a statement the way you have been, people think that you believe it (whether or not you do) and really you're just looking to start something. It probably would have attracted less attention, or a more even toned response, if you had started these threads during the week. You know, Marty is coming back to town, would we be better off if he was still here? Something like that.

TAFKAS
I say the Offence can't close a sure win. The D INTs the ball and the Offence can't get 20 yards and a FG.

That is the reason we lost.

Good discussion.

That's all I want.

This is a discussion forum, last I checked.

True, but it's kind of like posting a thread "Was Hitler all that bad?" on a website for Jewish Americans. You're kind of asking for it.

we lack horses, we play not to lose and we find a way to lose with a different culprit every week.i thought this team had turned a corner. i was wrong. they still don't know how to win, i feel as though gibbs doesn't trust this team enough to open it up.our defense did well, even giving 2 turn overs which our offense went 3 and out on both.our line is suspect, our qb can jittery at times. we have te who doesn't want the ball and our defense is not playing well against the run.it seems 3 qrts is about all we can get out of this team.i have to say that i am tired of watching this week in and week out with no end in sight.but, this is my team, but they are letting themselves and us down big time.i'm just tired of this,5 coaches and still the samething.

I was asking Cpayne about this, and I'll ask the rest of you. Are these guys lacking the stamina to play aggressive for 4 quarters? I mean I'd hate to say they're conditioned poorly but sometimes I wonder if that isn't one of the problems

That's a good question. People who are blaming this on the offense need to realize a couple of things. First of all, Portis is pretty much having to carry the load. With Betts being out, you lose a very good change up back that compliments Portis - that is going to hurt offensive production. Next, we lose David Patten and all though he hasn't had a spectacular year, like Tony McGee said last week, he is a very valuable guy to lose. This puts more pressure on Moss. You couple that with guys like Robert Royal who can't even catch a cold, that is going to hurt offensive production. When we're having key guys playing hurt or being out of the lineup on our offense, it puts more pressure on the defense to step up and carry the load. Of course we have also had key injuries on the defense as well, but when it comes to the fourth quarter, our defense can stand up to the pressure.

I will say this though, although I stand firm that this was a defense let down when it counted the most, at least the defense did try to make up for their let downs and mistakes by getting some turnovers, which is a step in the right direction. AND...that holding penality on Casey Rabech cost us a very makeable, winning field goal. However, I do believe this defense is only good for three quarters, and our offense isn't strong enough to make up for our defense running out of gas in the fourth, and the same goes in the other direction.

Point - both the offense and defense are too average to carry either one to a victory in close games.

we lack horses, we play not to lose and we find a way to lose with a different culprit every week.i thought this team had turned a corner. i was wrong. they still don't know how to win, i feel as though gibbs doesn't trust this team enough to open it up.our defense did well, even giving 2 turn overs which our offense went 3 and out on both.our line is suspect, our qb can jittery at times. we have te who doesn't want the ball and our defense is not playing well against the run.it seems 3 qrts is about all we can get out of this team.i have to say that i am tired of watching this week in and week out with no end in sight.but, this is my team, but they are letting themselves and us down big time.i'm just tired of this,5 coaches and still the samething.gibbs is, lt can make anyone look good.