Campbell, now!

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offiss
11-22-2005, 02:48 PM
Of coarse Brunell is the only reason we have even 5 wins, no one else could have moved the ball, or won any games, our defense is Brunells biggest problem, so what if our defense managed to outscore Brunell against the raiders, they gave up 16 points, any time a defense gives up 16 points you deserve to lose, I don't care how many times the offense turns the ball over it's the defenses job to over come turnovers, if our defense scored 1 more TD we wouldn't be having this conversation, Brunell's stats are fabulous, and that's all we need to look at, the win lose stat is moot, Brunells stats say he's doing his job.

As for a possible mistake not sticking with Ramsey? How can anyone say that? Did anyone see the guy play the first quarter against the Bears? He was awfull, so awful Gibbs couldn't bare to watch any longer and had to replace him, I don't want to hear how he drove the ball downfield twice on what has become maybe the best defense in football, and had more passing yards in a quarter than Brunell had in 3, He had more than an ample opportunity to prove himself and blew it, some QB's don't even get a quarter to prove themselves. Bottom line he threw an INT, now I know theres going to be a few of you who say the reciever ran the wrong route on that INT, but that's no excuse, as for his fumble with that cheap shot, well that was the last straw, we all know how Gibbs feels about turnovers, if you turn the ball over your out of there regardless of who you are.

As for Campbell, I believe Matty is right on this one, Brunell is the starter next season, and possibly the season after that, there is no sense in rushing a young QB, we are 5-5 and still much alive in the playoff race, we all knew Campbell was a 2 year project at best when we gave away this upcoming draft for him, lets not ruin him by throwing him to the wolves this soon, 1st rd QB's take a lot of time to develope, look at Ramsey he's still developing, nope I believe Gibbs is right on track with Brunell, now if we could only get the defense to hold teams below 10 points we would be fine.

offiss
11-22-2005, 02:55 PM
I think we are all overacting on Brunell. The reason the Skins are losing is because the "D" can't stop the big play, (or very many plays for that matter) and in the 2nd half Sunday, I blame what I thought was very poor play calling on our inability to come back. There were several series late in the game when Brunell dropped back to pass 3 straight times and had three straight incompletions when we had 2 WRs (thrash and patten) out of the game. Way to go Gibbs, play to our strenghts! And all of those bombs to Taylor Jacobs, were a joke.


That's it I had it, no one, and I mean NO ONE, questions Gibbs on this site, he's a hall of famer and has won 3 SB's, how many have you one sir? :duel:

offiss
11-22-2005, 03:08 PM
We are going no where with Brunell.... period i wanna see what ramsey can do..he played great at the end of last year.... brunells luck is over that arm is dead again plain and simple


Will you people stop talking about last season, last season is over, didn't anyone watch Ramsey play in the pre-season, he was horrific, and I don't want to hear the same old argument that he played against starters, and Brunell played against the starting 11 at the UPS loading dock! Did you pay attention to that first quarter of the Bears game? Ramsey is lucky he's not bagging groceries somewhere.

Brunell's arm is dead? I don't know how you came up with that, the man is 2-5 in our last 7 games, anyone else would be 0-7, how Brunell can even put up with the team that's around him is beyond me, you just wait comcast, as soon as Williams assembles the 85' bears on defense Brunells win lose stats will go way up. You can take that to the bank! :hater:

offiss
11-22-2005, 03:15 PM
Ben Roethlisberger. But for us, I can't think of anyone who had came in as a rookie and had led us to a winning season. I think when Mark Rypien finally nailed down the starting position, he had already been in the league for a year, maybe two.


Close, He really didn't nail it down until the season he won the SB about 6 seasons, in fact that season was a due or die for him.

MTK
11-22-2005, 03:51 PM
:Smoker:

dmek25
11-22-2005, 04:42 PM
is big ben that good or just a very good fit for an already good team?

offiss
11-22-2005, 04:45 PM
is big ben that good or just a very good fit for an already good team?

I believe it's both, he's obviously better than anyone else they have that's for sure.

amorentz
11-22-2005, 04:46 PM
Its crazy to start Campbell. Brunell is generally moving the offense, looking good and it would be best for Campbell to sit for a season or two. It never hurts to have a guy chill out on the bench and actually learn the system before he is asked to play.

MTK
11-22-2005, 04:54 PM
Its crazy to start Campbell. Brunell is generally moving the offense, looking good and it would be best for Campbell to sit for a season or two. It never hurts to have a guy chill out on the bench and actually learn the system before he is asked to play.

I definitely agree. Most teams don't have the luxury of letting a young QB ride the pine for 1-2 seasons, but I think that's the plan especially with the re-birth of Brunell.

railcon56
11-22-2005, 05:53 PM
Brunell's arm is dead? I don't know how you came up with that, the man is 2-5 in our last 7 games, anyone else would be 0-7,
is 2-5 acceptable to you ...i told u along time ago that this Defense was overrated as was williams..but everyone almost made him god... to me this coaching staff is to blame they let the wrong people go ..they made the cuts and kept the players that are there... 2-5 lol thats getting the job done??? ... why cant we stop the run why do we have ineffective receivers...you can say all you want what ramsey would have done but i do know one thing...brunell is 2-5 in his last 7 and leads the nfl in fumbles lost.... i was at the game and i might go to san diego....but i have seen what brunell can do say what u want but i was never on his bandwagon and yeah look at his ratings now and the defensive ratings ...NO excuse.... the axe needs to start falling... i love the skins but change is need if only for fresh blood and or hope... i pray i am wrong and we start winning big but i just dont see it but oh how i wanna be wrong...

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