In the right system Trotter will regain his Pro Bowl form. Barrow is still a very effective LB who plays with alot of fire. I've always like K-Mitch, he's a solid and heady player, he should have been starting these last two seasons, and we should have kept Barber.
Top 3 worst personnel moves since Snyder took over:
1) George: pushed BJ out of town
2) Sanders: huge waste of $$ even though his play was solid
3) Trotter: huge waste of $$ even though his play was solid
SKINSnCANES
04-21-2004, 02:36 PM
Top 3(4) worst personnel moves since Snyder took over:
1.Danny Wuerful
2.Shane Matthews
3.Bringing back Danny Wuerul
4.Supply those two with a bunch of bum receivers from Flordia that just got cut anyways.
SKINSnCANES
04-21-2004, 02:38 PM
I agree that we should have kept Barber. He was solid and didnt really give up plays. That was one of those stupid dismanteling and rebuilding moves that Snyder did. Its not like Barber was that much worse, but Trotter and Armstead made the pro bowl the year before so Dan thought the team would be better if we just turned the team over everything. I just want us to have some damn continuity for once. I hope we build our team this year and only get a few plugins next year. I actually wouldnt mind us trading our next years first just to get a team together and run with them.
skinsfanthru&thru
04-21-2004, 02:43 PM
i think the team was hesitant to resign barber cuz he was coming back from a nasty knee injury. i hated seeing him go to phili and wish we'd made the attempt to bring him back instead of him going to KC.
BrudLee
04-21-2004, 02:47 PM
I agree that we should have kept Barber. He was solid and didnt really give up plays. That was one of those stupid dismanteling and rebuilding moves that Snyder did. Its not like Barber was that much worse, but Trotter and Armstead made the pro bowl the year before so Dan thought the team would be better if we just turned the team over everything. I just want us to have some damn continuity for once. I hope we build our team this year and only get a few plugins next year. I actually wouldnt mind us trading our next years first just to get a team together and run with them.
Barber wanted big bucks, too. He settled on a one year deal to showcase his abilities, and eventually signed a long term deal with the Chiefs.
A lot of people make the mistake of saying "The Eagles signed Barber for $X, we should have kept him for that." Barber wouldn't have signed the same deal from us - he believed he already proved himself to the team. He wanted to beat us (hence the division rival) and showcase himself to the league.
JoeRedskin
04-21-2004, 02:48 PM
All legitimate screw-ups. But you are forgetting one, Stephen Davis. By failing to find a way to keep him, mostly b/c he didn't fit into Spurrier's plans, we ended up trading for Portis. Not that Portis is a bad pick-up or an improvement over SD, it just forced a personnel move that would not have been necessary. Even if we still lost Champ, their were plenty of bidders who would have given as good value in this draft.
Anybody doubt that Davis would have been a beast in Gibbs system?
skinsfanthru&thru
04-21-2004, 02:53 PM
All legitimate screw-ups. But you are forgetting one, Stephen Davis. By failing to find a way to keep him, mostly b/c he didn't fit into Spurrier's plans, we ended up trading for Portis. Not that Portis is a bad pick-up or an improvement over SD, it just forced a personnel move that would not have been necessary. Even if we still lost Champ, their were plenty of bidders who would have given as good value in this draft.
Anybody doubt that Davis would have been a beast in Gibbs system?
for possibly a season or 2, but portis is going to be an even bigger beast and is a heck of a lot younger and cheaper than what we would have been paying davis. plus with the cap room created by releasing davis we were able to get Coles and Thomas.
JoeRedskin
04-21-2004, 02:58 PM
Ahh, I hadn't considered the Thomas, Coles effect. Point taken. I retract my previous assertion as having been shown to be erroneous and ill-founded.
JWsleep
04-21-2004, 03:26 PM
(Wow. How very civil of you, JoeRedskin.)
Barrows had the best year of the three last year, and he'd be a good fit for us (I think he has the most speed??).
We haven't actaully cut Trotter yet. Any chance AT ALL that we might keep him on if we can't get Barrow? Could he restructure? Is he not a core redskin type?
sportscurmudgeon
04-21-2004, 08:08 PM
Of the three choices you've given me, let me start by saying that none of the three are outstanding linebackers.
Barrow is probably the best linebacker in terms of being able to make plays in all aspects of the game. But he does not excel at any of them.
Trotter can't cover a corpse. But he is a solid tackler and a guy who will not give up on a play. He makes too many mental mistakes for a MLB.
Mitchell seemed to have lost a step at the end of last year. He never had great speed to begin with so that makes him the most suspect one on this mediocre list.
Now you have to factor in what they cost you in terms of cap room. On that scale, Trotter is at the bottom and Barrow would probably be in the middle bewcause he'll command a signing bonus and Mitchell would be on top because he does not cost much.