SKINSnCANES
04-21-2004, 02:03 PM
If we had Winslow our offense would be in an elite group. Yes everyball to Winslow is a ball taken away from someone else. But a ball to Winslow that creates a first down is better then an incomplete pass to covered receivers. Look at the Giants, they run all over us when Shockey is in the game, we cant cover him and the receivers. We'd have that same threat. Taylor would help cover shockey but id kinda like to see our offense roll over people.
Gmanc711
04-21-2004, 02:04 PM
Clayton, ESPN.com senior NFL writer:" Joe Gibbs already told Kellen Winslow that if he's here, the Redskins will take him. He's the perfect H-back type tight end for the system that Gibbs wants to run. Gibbs coached Kellen Sr., so it's fitting that he gets to coach the son."
This was during the espn mock draft. Anyone else heard that Gibbs said we would take winslow?
skinsfanthru&thru
04-21-2004, 02:21 PM
Clayton, ESPN.com senior NFL writer:" Joe Gibbs already told Kellen Winslow that if he's here, the Redskins will take him. He's the perfect H-back type tight end for the system that Gibbs wants to run. Gibbs coached Kellen Sr., so it's fitting that he gets to coach the son."
This was during the espn mock draft. Anyone else heard that Gibbs said we would take winslow?
that contradicts what he hinted at with the howard hold out but this is the time of year where even joe gibbs can lay seeds of doubt in the minds of not only the fans but more importantly other clubs.
SKINSnCANES
04-21-2004, 02:22 PM
No one thinks Gibbs would lie, he giggles like a schoolboy during every press conference. Which means hes either very honest, or hes playing everyone into doing as he pleases.
JWsleep
04-21-2004, 02:56 PM
I have been pro KW II from the get go (I think I was the only one who voted for him in the draft poll ;) ). Here's why: Gibbs is the master of the H-back. His offense uses the position in extremely creative ways. The whole she-bang runs off of that position. Watch the incredible number of shifts and motions he runs off the h-back position. KW II is potentially the best h-back prospect ever. Ever. And Gibbs coached his dad.
Give Gibbs the weapons, and finish fixing the d with FA's, low draft picks, and next year's draft.
Taylor is awesome, and I wouldn't be at all disapointed with him. But KW II and Gibbs just seems like the right fit to me, especailly given that we DON'T HAVE AN H-BACK AT PRESENT.
Paintrain
04-21-2004, 03:36 PM
Taylor is awesome, and I wouldn't be at all disapointed with him. But KW II and Gibbs just seems like the right fit to me, especailly given that we DON'T HAVE AN H-BACK AT PRESENT.
I have been a Taylor guy the whole time, but you do make a point. We already have 2 safties who have played competently at the NFL level. I don't think Bowen is that bad, last year was his first year as a starter and he brings the hammer.. Ohalete is a bit slow and stiff, but if protected by scheme he's serviceable. We don't have a H-back/TE at all and getting a potential perennial pro bowler would be awesome. That would allow us to trade Gardner at some point if need be, especially if Jacobs develops and McCants continues to improve. I'm starting to lean KII's way.. I love/hate this time of year! :laughing-:
SKINSnCANES
04-22-2004, 12:29 AM
I think the Skins are having one of the hardest time making a decision. Most teams have a clear list of who they want at their pick. We will(should) have our choice and cant decide. Its not a decisio I would want to make. Im still hoping we pulls omething off to get both of them.
itvnetop
04-22-2004, 02:47 AM
i'd be happy with either, but the only reason i'd give the nod to taylor is b/c of our secondary... especially with the loss of bailey, i'd think some help is in order. i've been a smoot fan since his rookie year, but i'm not yet ready to name him a no. 1 corner... plus our D-Line isn't striking any fear into anyone just yet... so we may need some bolstering behind the backers.
itvnetop
04-22-2004, 02:49 AM
if the browns somehow land winslow, i think they'll be a top offense next year... their receiving corps is sick and i think william green is gonna be fine next year. their qb situation still needs stability though hehehe
SmootSmack
04-22-2004, 03:02 AM
Don't forget Lee Suggs on the Browns