Gotta luv ref's

Tuesday, November 15, 2005; Page E01



After reviewing replays of several controversial calls from Sunday's 36-35 loss to Tampa Bay, Washington Redskins Coach Joe Gibbs said yesterday that officials erred in several instances, including on the Buccaneers' game-winning, two-point conversion in the final minute of play. Gibbs said he planned to submit video from the play that indicates Tampa Bay fullback Mike Alstott had not crossed the goal line, as well as several other clips, to NFL officials.

Ya can't count on a part-timer.

I hate the NFL's System for Officiating

peace

I normally don't put much stock in this type of thing, but I must say, there were numerous calls that went against us that were game killers. Listening to the local sports shows in SW Florida yesterday, much of the talk, the officiating in the Skins, TB game. Even though these guys are HUGE TB fans, even THEY said Alstot did NOT make the end zone-CLEARLY. They also pointed out that the touchdown signal was not given until the ref crawled through the pile indicating they did not know either. Unfortunately (for us), that is not accurate. The other obvious biggie was the alleged "force out" on the sidelines of whatever TB reciever. BAD DEAL

The Refs are getting caught up in the emotion of the game and making some questionable calls many times like the end in favor of the home team or plays that are momentum changing with some questionable penalties. The NFL is sending out all kinds of fines for players doing wrong whether it be BS uniform violations, coaches questining those calls. When are they going to start fining these refs for clear missed calls after replay such as Alstot. They need to take these down by contact rulings and shove outs away from the refs and let instant replay take care of it. Many times these our clearly the wrong calls, but due to the ref making the call on the field whatever motivation or dictating factor they prevent the right call from being made at replay. Why would a ref even call a down by contact or a shove out just give what you think catch or blow the whistle after he clearly hits the ground and the ball is not flopping around.

Yea that so called push out call? what a crock. his foot was outta bounds when he caught the ball and the skin defender barely had a hand on him. i know in nascar they have taken a win away for an infraction or a mistake made by the high ups. has that ever happened in the history of the nfl? I doubt if it has, just curious.

It's funny because they rarely make that push out call, and you usually see it when a WR is in the air and gets shoved. It was a pretty lame call, worse than the Alstott one IMO, at least that one was close, the push out was just a completely blown call.

I guess if there is something positive about it. The officiating staff working a Skins game KNOWS,JOE will call them on that lame stuff. You know they DON'T like being held up in that knd of light. Mybe, they will be reluctant to make questionable calls in the future on us.

There are bad calls in almost every game and against both teams. Luckily, most times they don't decide the game's outcome. In this game, they did and, unfortunately, we have only ourselves to blame. We had 36 points on the board and should never have been in the position where a 2-point coversion could cost us the game.

The players know that bad calls will happen. Knowing that, they also know that allowing the opponent to score so many points on you puts you in the position where a bad call can mean everything.

I didn't like many of the calls, but I refuse to blame the refs for what happened on Sunday. You should win 100% of the games where you put up 36 points.

You should win 100% of the games where you put up 36 points.

Unfortunately, we only scored 35.

How bad does a call have to be before you throw a fit? I have no problem with refs making the best calls they can in the heat of the action. But the whole purpose of stopping games to review slow motion camera angles is to IMPROVE the calls that were made on the field (upheld or not). If you have solid evidence that (1) a player was not pushed out, and (2) a ball carrier's elbow came down short of the goal line, HAVE THE COURAGE TO MAKE THE RIGHT CALL (the rule about shove-outs not being reviewable is stupid).

Tampa Bay fans should be philosophical today about "we shouldn't have let the game come down to one call by the refs."

It's true that you can't blame the refs entirely, but you can't say the bad calls weren't a factor.