Defensive Freefall

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VishsSkins
11-14-2005, 04:38 PM
With taylor out, i hoped GW would have changed his scheming a little and not try to bring the house as often. I do not agree with how many times we blitzed springs from the corner position, leaving that side of the field open. Every time springs blitzed, simms went to that side of the field and we got burned. Besides taylor, our other safties cannot cover deep and i was uncomfortable blitzing like we did. We didn't even get much pressure when we did blitz, so i think GW should have realized that and let up a bit, especially with our corners. I say that having taylor out was a huge factor (like it was last year against Green Bay) and knowing that, GW should not have been as aggressive, or at least changed his gameplan during the game after he saw that we were not getting much pressure on simms anyway and that we were getting beat deep often.

#56fanatic
11-14-2005, 04:41 PM
Every defense in this league gets "figured out" I think teams have been doing their homework and figuring out what they can do against us. Williams is ultra aggressive, there is no question. If the QB can get time to throw the ball, even average QBs can take advantage of 1 on 1 coverage. Especially when you have an average CB with average cover skills. I gave this example earlier today, but remember the Dallas D a couple of years ago when it was #1. Zimmer was blitzing all over the place, and the average corners were not exposed. The next year, teams figured out how to negate their blitzs and their corners were exposed. Any corner in the NFL can cover a guy for 2 seconds, its when they have to cover them on double moves and deep posts that brings out the good and the bad in corners. It comes down to pressure. Teams have figured out where we are blitzing from and keep extra people in to account for that. Until GW changed a few things regarding blitz packages and we are better at confusing the QB at where the blitz is coming from we will have these problems. Thats why we were so good last year. Spring had what 6 or so sacks last year. How many this year, 0!!!. that blitz was awesome last year, but this year we haven't gotten any sacks out of it. We have to adapt, or its going to be a long road.

FirstandTen
11-14-2005, 04:43 PM
Every defense in this league gets "figured out" I think teams have been doing their homework and figuring out what they can do against us. Williams is ultra aggressive, there is no question. If the QB can get time to throw the ball, even average QBs can take advantage of 1 on 1 coverage. Especially when you have an average CB with average cover skills. I gave this example earlier today, but remember the Dallas D a couple of years ago when it was #1. Zimmer was blitzing all over the place, and the average corners were not exposed. The next year, teams figured out how to negate their blitzs and their corners were exposed. Any corner in the NFL can cover a guy for 2 seconds, its when they have to cover them on double moves and deep posts that brings out the good and the bad in corners. It comes down to pressure. Teams have figured out where we are blitzing from and keep extra people in to account for that. Until GW changed a few things regarding blitz packages and we are better at confusing the QB at where the blitz is coming from we will have these problems. Thats why we were so good last year. Spring had what 6 or so sacks last year. How many this year, 0!!!. that blitz was awesome last year, but this year we haven't gotten any sacks out of it. We have to adapt, or its going to be a long road.

Good point.. I agree that adapting and coming up with new bitzs and scheme's is going to be the key.

That Guy
11-14-2005, 09:41 PM
2 of our top 4 players on D are out right now and our depth obviously sucks. maybe that helps to explain it...

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
11-14-2005, 09:45 PM
I don't think our secondary should be getting as much of the blame as it is getting. I'm sorry, but Chris Simms had ALL DAY to throw the ball. I blame our front four as much as our back four for the poor passing defense.

I think our defense will get back on track once Griffin returns.

skinsguy
11-14-2005, 10:04 PM
Our front four wasn't getting pressure, that is definitely a fact. However, there is such a thing as a coverage sack. Our secondary left gaping holes that even I could have thrown a couple TD passes through. I agree with That Guy, it's a depth thing. As long as our starting secondary is in, we're okay. Once one of those guys goes down, we're in trouble.

jamf
11-15-2005, 12:42 AM
fanatic got it right.
we have 3 blitz packages:
corner blitz, teams arent supprised when we do it so springs and harris always get stopped.

Delay blitz, stunt the linemen and have a linebacker(usually washington or marshall) run up the middle hoping the offensivelinemen are already committed to blocking.

Zone Blitz, bring up everyone to the line and drop both defensive ends and rush arrington and washington.


We dont blitz safeties because we HAVE TO use them in coverage( i miss you smooty ). when we play a zone defence, any QB in the league can pick us apart because our front four gets absolutely no pressure.


another problem: we are using our Dlinemen to cover gaps not rush the passer. it helped solve the big runs to the right side problem but opens up more problem.

and another thing:
the reason why we dont get turnovers is because our guys dont match up with anyone. they all play a zone. NFL QB's(even the really bad ones) can pick apart zone coverages. they threw to galloway every time he was in Piersons zone...
when they throw to our corners, they are so far off they never have a chance to make a play on the ball. when was the last time you saw a Cornerback get his hands on the ball?
there is no reason why springs shouldnt shadow galloway( or any teams #1 WR).

our defensive scheme is too much "Bend but dont break" right now.

we have to make simms earn his TD's to galloway by throwing at springs one on one.

Match our talented guys up one on one and help the others. Give springs, Taylor, Washington and lavar a chance to make plays or get beat.

all year teams have been dictating our matchups. we cant let that happen. no more #1 WR vs a safety. we need to let springs lock them up. if springs gets beat, fine... but if we let pierson cover a teams WR, we are morons. I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT THE RAIDERS WILL LOOK FOR THAT MATCHUP.

bertoskins
11-15-2005, 05:48 AM
yesssss, I agree our defense is not doing its job very well,
we should limits our opponents to 10 points or less, but lately
it is very disappointing,

But I am not worried, because I know the GW is a heck of a coach

DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS

Luxorreb
11-15-2005, 06:05 AM
I think Williams is probably on the case fellas.
Moss is the best nonsuspended WR in the league right now. He can out jump anyone on our team. Williams is no dummy and this ain't his first rodeo. He played Wilds on him last year with Taylor supporting. Not to worry there is a new fiesta in the making.... Fed Ex field 1 pm Sunday!

#56fanatic
11-15-2005, 09:22 AM
The Redskins defense usually dictates the pace , or the play calling of the offense we are playing, or atleast last year they did. I agree with matching Springs on the other teams #1 receiver. We didn't have to do that so much last year because of Smoot. I would take Harris over Rogers RIGHT NOW, especially against the Raiders and a very good play caller in Norv. Harris can match up with Porter, but will need some over the top help from Clark. Taylor, if he plays, will make a huge difference in our pass coverage. TEs and Moss will not like to go across the middle if LaVar and Taylor are playing. They wont know which one is going to take their head off. It makes it easier for Norv if Taylor isn't playing, but hopefully Sean will be in there. Griffin is probably out, isn't there a FAT A$$ we can pick up out there that can take up some space and get a push up the middle? We basically have DE playing DT right now, other than BIG JOE. Our pass rush has to improve with our D-Line and LB or we are going to be in trouble rushing our corners and safeties, especially against the Raiders. They are playing a lot better than the 3-6 record indicates.

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