Is Carlos Rogers overrated?

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amorentz
11-14-2005, 11:48 AM
getting burned like a dime bag at a Grateful Dead Concert

:laughing2

Thats pretty much the funniest thing Ive read in a while...thats for taking some of the sting of the loss away this morning...

dmek25
11-14-2005, 11:59 AM
watching harris getting torched the last couple of weeks leaves me wondering why rogers isnt in the mix more.then yesterday rogers comes in and gets burned right away.the pressure corner g williams has these guys playing relies on getting to the quarterback,which we all know isnt happening

JWsleep
11-14-2005, 02:52 PM
Way too early to tell with Rogers.

But I thought (and this is surely stating the obvious) that the pass D was very badly exposed yesterday, top to bottom. Lack of a consistent pass rush from your down four leads to a need to blitz, which leaves you in single coverage. And most NFL recievers are going to beat man-to-man a fairly high percentage of the time. The injury to Taylor was a big blow in that department as well. I'm all for aggressive D, but leaving your corners out on an island late is sometimes a recipe for disaster. But that's the sort of D we have right now.

But it wasn't a particularly bad strategy--Simms had thrown picks when pressured, so applying pressure was a smart call. The bucs didn't blitz much and we killed them with the run and the short/intermediate pass. So, as Gibbs said last week, it's a chess match. And then it's about execution--our DBs and blitz didn't get it done, Simms and co did.

FirstandTen
11-14-2005, 03:16 PM
I didn't know that Rogers was 'rated' to be overrated. I put a whole lot more on Walt Harris' shoulders than Rogers. Harris got beat for 2 TD, I only saw Rogers get beat for one deep ball..

Agreed!

Southpaw
11-14-2005, 03:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paintrain
I didn't know that Rogers was 'rated' to be overrated. I put a whole lot more on Walt Harris' shoulders than Rogers. Harris got beat for 2 TD, I only saw Rogers get beat for one deep ball..

Agreed!

Being drafted in the top 10 makes him "rated".

12thMan
11-14-2005, 03:25 PM
Also, take into consideration that Rogers is still hampered by an ankle injury, which he's tweaked on and off since training camp. I don't think this kid is 100%, not that anyone is at this point in the season.

Hopefully with him he needs to get more reps in, and yes, at this point I don't think him starting would hurt us any more than what we've been getting.

FirstandTen
11-14-2005, 03:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paintrain
I didn't know that Rogers was 'rated' to be overrated. I put a whole lot more on Walt Harris' shoulders than Rogers. Harris got beat for 2 TD, I only saw Rogers get beat for one deep ball..



Being drafted in the top 10 makes him "rated".

So is he suppose to be an Pro bowler? I rate him as a rookie playing a tuff positon to jump right into. Like a QB its hard to expect even at top 10 dafted CB to be impact player his rookie year. Time will tell..

saden1
11-14-2005, 03:39 PM
It's way too early to judge Rogers cause he is till a rookie. Come next season, well, that's a different story.

paulskinsfan
11-14-2005, 04:19 PM
I guess the real question is this: Is Carlos unable to break into the starting lineup b/c of inconsistent play/talent level, OR is it because Williams doesn't want to put a rookie out there? I was gonna say its b/c he's a rookie, but Sean Taylor started after about 4 weeks. So that makes me think the kid is just not that good, but I really hope Im wrong.

Southpaw
11-14-2005, 04:22 PM
So is he suppose to be an Pro bowler? I rate him as a rookie playing a tuff positon to jump right into. Like a QB its hard to expect even at top 10 dafted CB to be impact player his rookie year. Time will tell..

I personally don't expect anything more of him than you do. I agree, he is a rookie and is going to make mistakes. The problem is, being drafted in the top ten brings along certain expectations from the media and the general public. And if he continues to play like he has thus far, this time next year 90% of the people on this site will be screaming that he is overpaid and overrated. Although his grace period might be a little longer since it was Gibbs that drafted him.

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