Did Gibbs Make the Wrong Call?

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skinsguy
11-14-2005, 09:19 PM
Biggest reason is turnovers. If we don't turn the ball over, we win the games we've lost this year (with the exception of NY Giants,) and we win those close games we've won this year, by more than 3 points.

EternalEnigma21
11-14-2005, 09:25 PM
yeah you're right. Turnovers are killing us.. I'm not sure that either of those picks were brunell's fault though, he's thrown the same passes several times on those quick hits, and yeah Tampa was waiting for it, but both times they got some lucky ass breaks with the balls hitting them in the chest.

skinsguy
11-14-2005, 09:56 PM
yeah you're right. Turnovers are killing us.. I'm not sure that either of those picks were brunell's fault though, he's thrown the same passes several times on those quick hits, and yeah Tampa was waiting for it, but both times they got some lucky ass breaks with the balls hitting them in the chest.


Yeah, those two INTs came off of deflicted passes. Those guys just were in the right place at the right time. Sometimes, luck is a part of being good. I do think we're a good team, we just haven't had enough of the good luck to come our way.

SUNRA
11-14-2005, 10:12 PM
Absolutely not. Frost punted a horrible ball when we really needed a long deep one in the Bucs side of the field. I believe they started on their 40yd line. That's the first mistake made by a player. The next of of course was on 3rd and 4 which no one mentioned. Walt Harris's dumb ass was off side which gave the Bucs a first down. You see Gibbs did his part. He coached them up after half time and the defense was playing decently for a while in the 3rd quarter. Then in the 4th, that's when all hell broke loose. Walt Harris, Carlos Rodgers and Pearson Priouleau were not on the same page. They did not bump Galloway at all at any time on any play that he caught 131yds of receptions on. That was the mistake of the players not Gibbs.

Gmanc711
11-14-2005, 10:45 PM
Hey Guys, was able to get to a comp real quick, I'll have a full thread on my experiance in Tampa, which was incredible, loss aside ,when I go home Wen.

But just to chime in here quick. I thought we should have ran a boot, because it worked the ENTIRE game. I defintley understand why we ran it, but no so much why up the middle when we had so much success there the entire game. I just felt like we were kinda playing more conservative and not going with what had to that point won us the football game. I think we should have passed or ran to the outside, but whats done is done. I dont think it was stupid to run the ball because it kills clock, but it just NEVER seems to work when we go up the middle, ever. I'll talk to you boys in a couple days.

BigSKINBauer
11-14-2005, 10:52 PM
Hey Guys, was able to get to a comp real quick, I'll have a full thread on my experiance in Tampa, which was incredible, loss aside ,when I go home Wen.


yeah i heard you were in a VERY good position to see the action on the field

railcon56
11-15-2005, 09:10 AM
usually you and I see eye to eye on things, but this time I have to disagree. You run the ball in that situation 99% of the time, or atleast Gibbs does. He always has been this way and probably always will. He won 3 super bowls with his "conservative" calls. we are too deep in our own territory to rish a throw. He may get sacked, fumble, int, what ever. too many risk factors involved to throw. Fact remains, the skins should have been able to run the ball to get two yards. We didn't , so we punted. What I am failing to hear is the fact the punter hit another bad punt. where is Tupa when you need him. the punt was only a net of about 30 yards, beside the fact it was a line drive punt. If he punts the ball deeper, we may be able to hold on. The whole team lost this game, but the punter seems to be getting a free ride here. He has not been a good punter up to this game and I dont see him changing anytime soon. Field position is key in that situation, and he blew it first, then the D blew it big at the end.
Oh that play didn't lose the game .... but I hate that thing where we play for the last possesion ...offense or defense and win it...we need to put people away...but that 1 play didn't lose the game...and i think the NFL is far more explosive than when gibbs won his superbowls...step on their necks and shoot them in the head..kick em when they are down!!!!

firstdown
11-15-2005, 03:07 PM
Wrong call, every team knows Gibbs is going to run the ball in that situation. He has had very little success running on third and short when we have the lead late in the game. If we looked up the stat for three and outs late in a game I think we would find they are very high. Back when we had the Hogs and the could run at will it was the right call. D lineman have become bigger and quicker making that play alot tougher. I'm not saying always pass in that situation but mix it up some so th D's are not sure what we are going to do.

#56fanatic
11-15-2005, 03:59 PM
Wrong call, every team knows Gibbs is going to run the ball in that situation. He has had very little success running on third and short when we have the lead late in the game. If we looked up the stat for three and outs late in a game I think we would find they are very high. Back when we had the Hogs and the could run at will it was the right call. D lineman have become bigger and quicker making that play alot tougher. I'm not saying always pass in that situation but mix it up some so th D's are not sure what we are going to do.

I dont know if it was the wrong call, my opinion is it wasn't. However, one part we all may agree on is maybe the wrong guy running the ball. If you need to grind out a measly 2 yards, put somebody in there that is going to fall forward for 2 yards after getting hit. Betts, Sellers, maybe even rock or broughton. Portis just needs a little more of a hole to make yards than those guys. those guys can plow forward and push the pile a few yards.

Redskins_P
11-15-2005, 04:06 PM
We were having so much success running the ball throughout the entire game, so in my mind it was the logical thing to do.

If we would've passed and not made it....probably half of the people here would've been calling for Gibbs head.

Its all hindsight....

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