Gregg Williams Has Some Explaining to Do!

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sportscurmudgeon
11-14-2005, 08:56 PM
Read a comment attributed to Philip Daniels after the game yesterday. He said that this loss should be hung on "us" - meaning the defensive unit. He said that when the team gets 35 points, it's supposed to win and if it does not then the defensive unit is at fault.

You know, I think he's right and I applaud him for his candor...

skinsguy
11-14-2005, 09:01 PM
Yep! I'm with ya SC. Even though we turned the ball over in the first half, the offense did their part - especially in the second half. It was on the defense to hold their offense and they didn't get the job done.

Longtimefan
11-16-2005, 04:32 PM
What is your definition of a "reasonable approach" to getting the first down? If you pass the ball on that 3 and 2, and it falls incomplete, you leave the Bucs with even more time on the clock to drive down the field, or even worse, you through an INT and they return it for a touchdown. The most reasonable approach to gain a first down, in that situation, was made. We just didn't get it.


Reasonable Approach; in that situation would have been to run a play with more than one option, maybe a play simuilar to the one we ran to convert our only 4th down of the game.

Hog1
11-16-2005, 04:44 PM
Read a comment attributed to Philip Daniels after the game yesterday. He said that this loss should be hung on "us" - meaning the defensive unit. He said that when the team gets 35 points, it's supposed to win and if it does not then the defensive unit is at fault.

You know, I think he's right and I applaud him for his candor...

Amen, and props to Daniels for being a standup guy. He's totally correct. The Offense scores 35.....................mark it a W.
I have to say, after what I saw and what I have read, for the first time in my life do I blame the officiating as well. Bad calls happen, and sometimes they influence game outcomes. I thought this was an EXTRAORDINARY level of incompetence on the officiating crew. I'll not re-re-hash on all the ANGRY details as we all saw the game!!!!!

offiss
11-16-2005, 06:21 PM
Williams is without 2 of his most important players on defense isn't he? Griffen and Taylor, we know the rest of our player are average at best on the line, Springs had been in and out of the lineup.

And yes Rogers worries me, he doesn't look like he has the enough speed to really hang in with NFL recievers.

skins052bgr8
11-17-2005, 09:44 AM
Quality depth is difficult to come by with the salary cap, but this depth we have cannot keep getting torched as much as they have been in the past. I can't question the coaches as much as the players simple do not let their asses get behind you. Don't give them the one shot over the top. Things get tight for any offense inside the Red zone all bunched up. How do you over and over again get burnt over the top. It has to be something more than just speed, if it was all it was we should torch everybody every play with Moss speed. He gets his fair share but most of his have been YAC besides the two in the Dallas game. Seemed like some confusion, is Lemar Marshal getting them lined up correctly in certain situations. The D does seem a little more confused this year with him calling the D and getting them lined up. Many times still hopping around when the ball is snapped on the front line jumping side to side that late does not help you get up the field and put pressure on the QB. Gregg Williams knows his players and if he was not comfortable with their abilities, he would pull them. There was some mix ups in this game as well as Taylor being a big loss. He has good recovery speed even if he does have a bad read.

jermus22
11-17-2005, 10:24 AM
I'm still pissed that we let Tampa get 36 pts, even though penalties were partially responsible.

skins052bgr8
11-17-2005, 08:28 PM
The more I think about this the more I have to say Gregg Williams shouldn't have to take a hard look at his schemes. When your system for 98% of the plays keeps them out of the endzone and the numbers/stats show you are getting it done it is not the scheme. I may be way off base but individuals give up big plays not a scheme. Big play after big play showed a single player getting burned. The run stop is strong, but players are getting run by in the secondary. I know I even said keep Springs out to cover, but still many times that leaves 2 receivers still to cover. The schemes match you up with your abilities and let's face it the secondary he is working with this year are getting burned on zone coverage many times thats just fundamental football cover your damn man.

Gmanc711
11-17-2005, 08:30 PM
I'm still pissed that we let Tampa get 36 pts, even though penalties were partially responsible.

Dont forget 14 points off turnovers. Especially the one where they started on like the 5.

That Guy
11-18-2005, 01:23 AM
i kind of wonder if we could have been better off trading down/taking a DE and picking up fabian and D williams instead...

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