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RedskinPete 11-13-2005, 10:24 PM The difference between Brunell and Ramsey is that the former fumbles, but doesn't throw many picks, but the latter both fumbles (when hit) and throws picks. Today, Brunell was Ramsey.
Ok, maybe that's simplifying things since Brunell sees the field much better than Ramsey and is more willing to scramble to pick up yards.
The point of this thread is not to initiate Brunell vs Ramsey talk again, but initiate fan talk about the emphasis on better protection for Brunell, as well as Brunell's technique protecting the football. This far, Brunell as been miserable at protecting the ball. Hell, Simeon Rice could've pinched Brunell's a$$ and he would've coughed up the ball.
The two are not the same Ramsey may never be what we thought he was going to be! Yes Brunell put the ball on the ground. One time cooley blew a block and Rice should have never been blocked one on one! As for the Ints one was Pattons falt clearly! The other Rice again was in his face! Never should have been thrown! Lets look at the hole team!!! All the O hasn't protected the ball this season!!!
That Guy 11-14-2005, 12:22 AM brunell has 3 ints and 3 fumbles (2 lost) in the last 3 weeks :(
FirstandTen 11-14-2005, 12:29 AM Brunell played like Ramsey???????? That's F'ing crazy!!! Yea he fumbled but his INT's were clearly not his fault. The fact that Brunell hits multiple targets, scrambles for key 1st downs, and scrambles to get free to pass is something Ramsey never could do!! I can't belive your questioning a QB who led us to 35pts.. GET REAL!!! :banghead:
44deisel44 11-14-2005, 12:44 AM because he doesn't tuck the ball away thats why...thats obvious!!
Please!!!! Dont do this thread.......brunell had a decent outing...If Patton woulda come back towards ball and catch(Moss)NO pick!!!!!...second, Brunell shoulda audibled(which he said he doesnt dare in THIS weeks conference) in an OBVIOUS man 4 man coverage with man in motion and DB following:mad: !!!! QUICK SLANT not gonna work. Kudos for rice's hustle to make the pick....I'm finding it harder and harder to talk with the Negative fan base here!!!!Please guys...Keep your head up. Im impressed(once again) with our offensive game plan and performance!!!!! Ive told my family...of skins fans with over 2 centuries of devotion among us that we do NOT need to be so aggresive on defense!!! We have the talent on Offense greg!!!!!! We dont need u to win games THIS year. By the way...LOVE the new faces....:spank:
44deisel44 11-14-2005, 12:45 AM Brunell played like Ramsey???????? That's F'ing crazy!!! Yea he fumbled but his INT's were clearly not his fault. The fact that Brunell hits multiple targets, scrambles for key 1st downs, and scrambles to get free to pass is something Ramsey never could do!! I can't belive your questioning a QB who led us to 35pts.. GET REAL!!! :banghead:
THANK YOU!!!! You just became my favorite Warpath friend...:woot: :food-smil
hurrykaine 11-14-2005, 12:46 AM Brunell played like Ramsey???????? That's F'ing crazy!!! Yea he fumbled but his INT's were clearly not his fault. The fact that Brunell hits multiple targets, scrambles for key 1st downs, and scrambles to get free to pass is something Ramsey never could do!! I can't belive your questioning a QB who led us to 35pts.. GET REAL!!! :banghead:
If you read the original post clearly, I'm not questionning Brunell starting over Ramsey at all. That debate was settled in Game 2 against the Cowboys, as far as I'm concerned.
What I am questionning is his technique protecting the football when he's under D-line pressure. Let's count the number of games he has fumbled in. Denver, Kansas City (in the red zone), Giants, Eagles (red zone), and today. So, your stellar QB has fumbled the ball in 5 of the last 6 games. That's a problem in need of correction, wouldn't you say? Not by benching him, but by better QB coaching and protection.
44deisel44 11-14-2005, 12:53 AM If you read the original post clearly, I'm not questionning Brunell starting over Ramsey at all. That debate was settled in Game 2 against the Cowboys, as far as I'm concerned.
What I am questionning is his technique protecting the football when he's under D-line pressure. Let's count the number of games he has fumbled in. Denver, Kansas City (in the red zone), Giants, Eagles (red zone), and today. So, your stellar QB has fumbled the ball in 5 of the last 6 games. That's a problem in need of correction, wouldn't you say? Not by benching him, but by better QB coaching and protection.
YOUR stellar?......NUFF SAID................ALL skins...wow!!! i would never mention any redskin as your!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!
44deisel44 11-14-2005, 12:55 AM That fumble from Rice ...He HAD tucked it away....Geez
44deisel44 11-14-2005, 01:00 AM Even with the turnovers, the fumbles and forced passes Walt Harris loss this game for the Redskins. He was called for offside on 3 and 4. He was burnt toast all day and he never played up on Galloway or Hilliard which eventually killed him. As Brunell, he played a decent game against the 1# defense in their home and he still was able to move the ball after his mistakes. That's the QB we need at the end of the day. He can win but so many games at the end of the game on the road. Brunell is still the best QB in the NFC East period.
Not to mention HE was the 1 OFFSIDES on the opposite end of SPRINGS who blocked the extra point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lets face it....Without Taylor we are very vulnerable.:hitfan:
44deisel44 11-14-2005, 01:08 AM Sorry all. Just i usuall read each week and little chat and just gettin tired of negative "we suck....we rule..." attitude after every game.....Dont you think GIBBS is figuring all this out?....plz #1 Rush "D" in the league and he pounds Portis in their face for a buck fifty!!!!!!...I LOVE his KILL THE HEAD THE BODY WILL DIE approach on this game:coach:
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