Trading Patrick Ramsey

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Hog1
11-11-2005, 10:29 AM
I am curious about something. Are all you Gibbs/Williams haters, lunatic Lavar worshipers, Brunell doubters, Danny bashers, and in general, mal-contents the same person using multiple log-ins? Because if you are............................you must be my ex-wife!!!!!!!!!!!! If so, I really, really promise I did NOT squander the Child support check on season tickets!!!!!!!

NFLeurope
11-11-2005, 10:34 AM
I think while Brunell is doing well this season...the questionable thing was the contract they gave him.

Last year his play was worse than anybody could have imagined...and this year it is better than anybody could have imagined especially when considering last year. But i guess the main question one might have is why in the heck they would have given a 33/34 year old quarterback such an enormous contract.

I mean if it works out for us...and he continues to produce at this rate...then great you know... But i think that would just be us lucking out on this signing...and the signing itself/when compared to the price of that signing...will remain a very questionnable decision on the part of the front office (especially in light of the fact that they already had a 1st rounder in Patrick Ramsey on the roster).

However, this was meant as an attempt to explain the questions over brunells play/contract, rather than a complaint about his current performance.

I am generally very pleased with brunells play this year... I hope he can keep it up and take us into the post season as contenders...GO SKINS!

MTK
11-11-2005, 10:44 AM
Brunell's deal is essentially a 3 year contract worth approx. $10M. Forget about the fact it's a 7 year deal, that's just to make it work with the cap.

FirstandTen
11-11-2005, 10:52 AM
Below's a link to a list of 2004 QB salaries. Brunell's contract does not seem that out of line when you look at other over paid QB's.

Also Skins made a quick high offer to Brunell because at the time there was a lot of teams looking to sign a sold veteran QB. If you remember correctly Dallas and the Giants were two of the teams looking....If we low balled Brunell and say he signed with the G-Men guess what, last year could have been the Kurt Warner or Drew Bledsoe ERA for us. (think about that for a second)

Brunell's playing at a pro bowl level this year, so its hard to argue with the money we gave him. Bottom line is were 5-3 right now lets enjoy and stop dusting off the sour past looking for arguments.


http://asp.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/salaries/playersbyposition.aspx?pos=3

heybigstar
11-11-2005, 11:22 AM
After this year, we wont have to pay for the 9M coles hit and the 4.5M trotter hit, as our cap gets better and better. I think we pay like 1M for trotter the next year, but our dead cap gets lower and lower....

skinsguy
11-11-2005, 12:12 PM
Brunell's playing at a pro bowl level this year, so its hard to argue with the money we gave him. Bottom line is were 5-3 right now lets enjoy and stop dusting off the sour past looking for arguments.


I agree 100%! I think it's just going to take nothing short of a perfect season and a perfect championship to get some fans to actually enjoy watching the Redskins again. :coach:

giacomo2
11-11-2005, 07:22 PM
from what i've heard chad pennington is just about shot, his arm strength is very poor and they really do need a young starter, plus they like ramsey. it would be a great trade for us though, J.A. is a stud and would fit perfect with our system.

FRPLG
11-11-2005, 08:08 PM
from what i've heard chad pennington is just about shot, his arm strength is very poor and they really do need a young starter, plus they like ramsey. it would be a great trade for us though, J.A. is a stud and would fit perfect with our system.
Pennington never had a strong arm and I can't imagine it is going to gte any better. This guy could be agreat NFL qb but injuries will most likely force him out fo the league in the 4 or 5 years I would guess. Ramsye might be an answer there but they can't trade a guy when he is already going to be a FA can they? Unless they franchise him he is not on their team after the season is over. We'd be silly to trade for him when we could sign him as a FA . They aren't going to franchise him since he'd go ballistic.

sportscurmudgeon
11-14-2005, 08:12 PM
It's amazing how folks here look at the world differently depending on what team is doing the maneuvering.

Abhaham is the Jets' franchise player. If they hang that tag on him, won't it cost the Skins more than merely Patrick Ramsey in a deal? And remember that means a hefty signing bonus for Abraham which will come from cap room generated by??? Oh, and lots of teams will realiza that the Skins might want to "move Ramsey" since his contract starts to be less "cap friendly" in its later years. So why offer the Skins top dollar for a guy that they want to "move".

When the Skins' FO is theoretically in charge of the maneuvering, people here assume that a franchise player will bring the full two first round pick value and maybe more.

Oh, here are twi nire flies in the ointment:

1. It is by no means certain that Herm Edwards will be back in NY next year. And don't be surprised if he doesn't wind up in KC...

2. The Jets are still very much in the running to draft a kid named Leinart. I know that Patrick Ramsey is held in lofty esteem here, but I'd take a flyer on Leinart over Ramsey every day of the week and twice a day if the moon is full.

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