Trading Patrick Ramsey

Gee. I'm convinced. You guys are right. What else can you make out of a 23-33 record since 2002?

This front office is perfect. What was I thinking.

:rolleyes:

What does Gibbs have to do with anything before 2004?

That's what we're talking about here, the current front office and the moves that have been made since Gibbs came back.

Gee. I'm convinced. You guys are right. What else can you make out of a 23-33 record since 2002?

This front office is perfect. What was I thinking.

:rolleyes:


Nobody's is asserting the front office is perfect. What I and the majority of posters are saying is that, since Gibbs 2.0 came around, we have been more conservative in our signings. And, since Gibbs 2.0 began, we are 11 - 13 and likely to have an overall winning record at the end of two seasons.

There has been a sea change at Redskins Park. The front office is marching to a different tune. Give credit where credit is due.

Rabach, Griffin, Washington, Springs. Good solid signings. Don't expect to see anymore Deion or Bruce signings. Expect them to occasionally sign a big name or two IF he has the right attitude and isn't asking for the bank (a' la Musin Muhammed). Expect them to occasionally take a flyer on an injured pro on the comeback and willing to play cheap (Barrow, Walt Harris). Expect them to make quality offers to their homegrown guys but not promise them the moon. Expect them to look for quality team guys who they think can make a difference.

Check back in 2007 - Then tell me what a crappy front office we have. I expect that it will continue to improve as Joe leaves his mark and teaches Danny a thing or two about how to run a sports team.

Are they gonna continue to make mistakes? yup. Do they seem to have learned from past mistakes? yup. Are they in the class of the Eagles and Patriots in terms of respect? Nope. Are they headed in that direction? Yup.

Sometimes I think people just gotta have something to bitch about.

Nobody's is asserting the front office is perfect. What I and the majority of posters are saying is that, since Gibbs 2.0 came around, we have been more conservative in our signings. And, since Gibbs 2.0 began, we are 11 - 13 and likely to have an overall winning record at the end of two seasons.

There has been a sea change at Redskins Park. The front office is marching to a different tune. Give credit where credit is due.

Rabach, Griffin, Washington, Springs. Good solid signings. Don't expect to see anymore Deion or Bruce signings. Expect them to occasionally sign a big name or two IF he has the right attitude and isn't asking for the bank (a' la Musin Muhammed). Expect them to occasionally take a flyer on an injured pro on the comeback and willing to play cheap (Barrow, Walt Harris). Expect them to make quality offers to their homegrown guys but not promise them the moon. Expect them to look for quality team guys who they think can make a difference.

Check back in 2007 - Then tell me what a crappy front office we have. I expect that it will continue to improve as Joe leaves his mark and teaches Danny a thing or two about how to run a sports team.

Are they gonna continue to make mistakes? yup. Do they seem to have learned from past mistakes? yup. Are they in the class of the Eagles and Patriots in terms of respect? Nope. Are they headed in that direction? Yup.

Sometimes I think people just gotta have something to bitch about.
I'm praying they dont embarrass us and sign T O but then again he would catch Td's but i wonder if anyone else has had this scary thought

Gee. I'm convinced. You guys are right. What else can you make out of a 23-33 record since 2002?

This front office is perfect. What was I thinking.

:rolleyes:

If you're going to have that argument, you might as well go all the way back to 1994. You see how senseless it is?

Looking at the front office and the current Redskins staff in place, which makes perfect sense, the only real disappointment has been Mike Barrow. Well gee...ya know, one bad move out of all the other ones is a pretty good track record in my opinion.

If you're going to have that argument, you might as well go all the way back to 1994. You see how senseless it is?

Looking at the front office and the current Redskins staff in place, which makes perfect sense, the only real disappointment has been Mike Barrow. Well gee...ya know, one bad move out of all the other ones is a pretty good track record in my opinion.

and barrow was cheap compared to his expected production...

The Ramsey/Abraham trade would NEVER happen. Abraham will be a free agent unless they franchise him. Even if he wasn't, why the Jets trade him for a back-up QB. Won't Pennington be back?

Second, Beemnseven is right. We have a 11-13 record. Just because Brunell has had 5-7 good games this year doesn't mean he was a good signing. Even if he leads us to the playoffs, doesn't mean it was a smart signing. He completely ruined last year's season! I will NEVER forget how bad he was, and how we wasted such a great Defense. Now, the defense is so suspect!

Second, Beemnseven is right. We have a 11-13 record. Just because Brunell has had 5-7 good games this year doesn't mean he was a good signing. Even if he leads us to the playoffs, doesn't mean it was a smart signing. He completely ruined last year's season! I will NEVER forget how bad he was, and how we wasted such a great Defense. Now, the defense is so suspect!


:postcop: Go back and re-read your post again. We don't have a 11-13 record. We have a 5-3 record. What is done in last season stays in last season. By your logic, it is the same as me saying that just because Brunell had a crappy 7 or 8 games last year, doesn't mean it was a bad signing. So, even if Brunell happened to lead the Redskins to the Super Bowl and win it all, you'd still say it was a mistake to sign him just because of what happened a year ago? :yeahright

Brunell did not single handedly ruin last season, that's just a ridiculous statement.

We had problems across the board last season from the system, playcalling, penalties, clock management, personnel, and the list could go on and on.

So if he helps the team get to the playoffs this year people will still say he was a bad signing? C'mon, we're talking about a team that hasn't had a sniff of the postseason since 1999, and we're going to hold a silly grudge against Brunell... for what?

I don't know what it's going to take to make people forget about last season, I thought the playoffs would but for some people Brunell will never redeem himself. Even if they won it all I could still see some people saying "yeah but what about 2004?"

:bdh:

:Smoker:

last year is over, brunell is doing great this year. last year our recievers were crap, and matty is right. we had lots of things wrong with our team.

:spank:

Our new smileys are all very appropriate.