offiss
04-18-2004, 06:50 PM
When it's your time to pick you can, that's how jimmy johnson did it, he would have a specific contract of what he thought that particular slot should be paid, and he would send it out with his rep's and have them standing by potential draft pick's, they would offer it to thier first choice, if he turned it down then the next, and so on, the reasoning behind it is even if the player you want is more talented than the one you may get it put's pressure on a guy to sign because he may wynd up dropping much further in the draft, perhap's making less money than the player drafted in his spot, even if he's more talented, hypothetically we may wan't Winslow, so we offer him the contract first, now he has to consider whether or not the lion's will draft him? or will he fall a couple spot's and maybe get a less lucrative contract? As well he may not really want to play for a particular team even if he can get top dollar, as well he know's how interested we are in taylor and we would draft him in a heartbeat so it leaves little room for games on Winslow's part, now if he was far and away the best talent he could swing a bigger hammer, but there is to much talent in the top 10 to hold team's up with overbearing contract's, so we have some leverage this year before we pick, the player has more leverage after we pick, so if we can get him signed before we pick we should seriously press hard to do so.
SKINSnCANES
04-18-2004, 07:12 PM
Yea once its our pick we can hand then an offer sheet, and if we want Winslow I think that we should. If he doesnt want to offer sheet and if we dont pick him his just giong to be kicking his butt later when he has to play for less money, that or he holds out for another team.
offiss
04-18-2004, 07:24 PM
All I could find was years with a 13 million dollar signing bonus... That seems really steep to me. I thought when I looked up Charles Rogers, the second pick, signing bonus it was only 7 or 9 million. Anyone know a site that lists all the salaries of last years draft choices.
the jet's gave Dwayne Robertson 13 million signing bonus for the #4 pick in the draft, so you have to figure the #5 this year will be close to that.
SKINSnCANES
04-18-2004, 08:21 PM
draft choices have been paid so much in recent years... 13 million to a player that hasnt taken a snap... It weird how the league has changed to being primarily bonuses. Portis didnt get that much bigger of a signing bonus, but hes going to make a lot more per year than any rookie would.
SKINSnCANES
04-18-2004, 08:22 PM
by the way, I wonder if Dwayne Rovertson will turn out to be any good. He was on my bust list at the end of last year. But it was only one year, we'll see how he does this year. Personally I want him to be a bust because it just further makes the Coles deal look a lot better for us. Even the two players that Arizona picked with out pick and the Jets pick havent done well. Arizona drafted Johnson in the first round and Boldin ended up being the star.
skinsfanthru&thru
04-19-2004, 04:22 AM
Theres a little story in there to about Jarrot Payton, im sure most of you dont care but I had just mentioned him in another thread before reading this article.
even though I hate Miami with a passion(before the scandal), part of me was rooting for him but from what I saw of him he's one of those types of people whose only famous because of his last name. he may be a backup one day but will most likely just be a special teamer. of course that is a bit of a shadow to live in.
SKINSnCANES
04-19-2004, 04:28 AM
well, to be fair to him he never had a chance at Miami. He played wiht Clinton Portis, James Jackson, Edgerin James his freshmen year I beleive, and then Frank Gore last year. He came just shy of 1000 yards last year and only played in mabye 8 games at most. And he was sharring time with Tyrone Moss, who will be the next big back to come of Miami. He did well when he had the ball and could prove himself in the NFL. He'll have to prove it though, he wont be given a start next year. Of course if the Bears do draft him they might as well start him. ATrain and Thomas Jones arent exactly elite backs. Could be a good pick for the bears for both PR and for the position.
skinsfanthru&thru
04-19-2004, 04:46 AM
i agree he does have talent but if he was picked by the bears it'd be more of a pr move and to be honest wouldn't really be fair to him. not only does he have to live in his dads shadow but to do it for the same team his dad played for. and I have a good feeling thomas jones is gonna have a darn good year this year.
Daseal
04-19-2004, 08:11 AM
A-Train is coming! I love Thomas, he's a great back, just had a slump last year! Jones is also quite a runner, I think Chicago will be much improved, and I think if they still had Jeron they'd be better off.
SKINSnCANES
04-19-2004, 01:52 PM
yes I dont know if I see Lovie Smith being that great of a Coach. He'll definitly need a year or two to learn thast for sure.