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FRPLG 10-25-2005, 09:26 AM Just finished reading the WT article on Pierce being a "reluctant" NY Giant. I have to wonder why in this day and age it is acceptable for players and agents to ask for the moon in contract negotiations but when teams do the same thing, by low-balling, they get villified by the players. Pierce called the first contract offer an "embarassment". Shouldn't the last contract offer be the one you base your opinion on? Not the last. I thought it was somewhat reasonable that the Skins didn't want to blow right past Washington's deal yet the article mentions that Pierce didn't want to go. That is not true. He didn't want to go just as long as the Skins offered him the most money. That is not nearly the same thing. What a crock. I like Pierce and he is actually one of the good guys but that is what's scary. When a guy like Pierce, who left for money basically, is one of the good guys what the hell is wrong with the rest of the guys?
I loved Pierce, it's a shame something couldn't have been worked out. He obviously really wanted to be here, but at what cost?
He says in the past free agents have basically robbed the Skins, I'll give him that but the key is the past.
I'm sure we'd all take AP over Marshall straight up, but when you compare the jobs they are doing on the field and what they're making, Marshall is a steal.
AP said it himself, this D will be successful no matter who's at MLB, so why should the Skins have broken the bank on him?
He answered his own question.
TheMalcolmConnection 10-25-2005, 09:54 AM Well maybe if we're WINNING this year, we can have free agents like the Patriots who WANT to stay for cheap.
AP is a stud for GW. Maybe he can come back. Was sorry to see him go in a way I wasn't for Smoot.
FRPLG 10-25-2005, 10:17 AM I loved Pierce, it's a shame something couldn't have been worked out. He obviously really wanted to be here, but at what cost?
He says in the past free agents have basically robbed the Skins, I'll give him that but the key is the past.
I'm sure we'd all take AP over Marshall straight up, but when you compare the jobs they are doing on the field and what they're making, Marshall is a steal.
AP said it himself, this D will be successful no matter who's at MLB, so why should the Skins have broken the bank on him?
He answered his own question.
Good point.
Southpaw 10-25-2005, 11:33 AM I liked Antonio Pierce, mainly because he was a homegrown Redskin who made plays as a special teamer, got his chance to start and performed well at middle linebacker. I don't blame him for taking the money, but I also think the Giants overpaid for him.
Lemar Marshell is an adequete replacement. He's not quite the ball hawk that Pierce was, but he's consistent and runs Williams defense pretty well.
#56fanatic 10-25-2005, 11:34 AM Pierce was a great leader on the field last year for us. There is not that much loyalty in the game anymore when it comes to players and their contracts. They take the money and run. Hopefully Gibbs can create the same atmosphere that the Pats have in recent years. It is refreshing to hear a player take less money to stay with a team for the right reasons, than leave for all the wrong reasons. Smoot left for money too. I bet he wishes he was still in washington with the way the Vikings are playing. I believe the Redskins had plans in place that would allow for those two players to leave. They knew how much they could offer that would not hamper the future in terms of cap reasons. Especially when you have LaVar on the bench, and Marshall playing as well as he did last year. I think they will have a plan next year too, with McCume. He is on our practice squad right now, but this guy once he gets to know the system will be a pretty good LB. He is like 26 years old, and was in the Marines or something like that. He is a big guy, like LaVar and is faster than LaVar. Watch out for this guy this year, maybe even late in the year if we have an injury.
FRPLG 10-25-2005, 11:42 AM Pierce was a great leader on the field last year for us. There is not that much loyalty in the game anymore when it comes to players and their contracts. They take the money and run. Hopefully Gibbs can create the same atmosphere that the Pats have in recent years. It is refreshing to hear a player take less money to stay with a team for the right reasons, than leave for all the wrong reasons. Smoot left for money too. I bet he wishes he was still in washington with the way the Vikings are playing. I believe the Redskins had plans in place that would allow for those two players to leave. They knew how much they could offer that would not hamper the future in terms of cap reasons. Especially when you have LaVar on the bench, and Marshall playing as well as he did last year. I think they will have a plan next year too, with McCume. He is on our practice squad right now, but this guy once he gets to know the system will be a pretty good LB. He is like 26 years old, and was in the Marines or something like that. He is a big guy, like LaVar and is faster than LaVar. Watch out for this guy this year, maybe even late in the year if we have an injury.
Faster than Lavar? You sure?
#56fanatic 10-25-2005, 12:16 PM Faster than Lavar? You sure?
Thats what I heard from early in preseason. Plus the guy is HUGE! not as tall as LaVar, but just as big. Nothing but muscle.
Redskins_P 10-25-2005, 12:26 PM No way Pierce is faster than Lavar. And as far as size, Lavar is 6'3 247 and Pierce is 6'1 240.
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