(Merged Threads) LaVar Arrington and Gregg Williams

That's what I'm thinking too, perhaps he's finally getting it that he needs to shut the hell up.

Would you be able to shut the HELL UP??? I dont think he should at all....this williams is a little dictator..I don't give a damn what he says having LaVar on the bench while scrubs that other teams didnt want start in front of him as he sits on the bench is crazy beyond belief!!!!!!!!!!

Greg Williams has a very good defensive scheme but he needs to get off his high-horse about this Levar Arrington issue. He needs to give Levar an opportunity to win back his starting position. Sitting on the bench is not going to get it. He puts Clemons in on 3rd down situations and I'm not seeing any preesure from him. Why not Levar? The worst he could do is not put pressure on the quarterback, just like Clemons. I think its personal. If he puts Levar in and he makes a big play, the excuses for not playing him cease. Thats Williams biggest fear. Put Levar into the game! The fan reaction will let you know where the fans stand. It will be one of the biggest roars! FREE LEVAR!


DEAD ON!!!!!! he has put his silly little pride ahead of winning....

This is what I was wondering: Given Williams proven worth, LaVar's proven playmaking ability and LaVar's (not proven 'cause we don't know what his assignment is for a given play ... but there is enough circumstantial eveidence) freelancing - the only thing that I see that parallels LAs reduction of playing time is our corners being hurt.

That would lead me to deduce that Williams is unwilling to take any additional risk with out having Springs and Harris healthy. The other side of this assessment is that after Rodgers we are weak enough at CB that Williams dosent feel he has the flexibilty to gamble.

I have thought our recent weakness to the big play has been due to having Springs and/or Harris out for the past three weeks. It will be very interesting to see if when they are both healthy how we fair vs the big play. If I had to guess, LA's playing time will follow our CB's health until he get more discipline.

BTW- LA showed an attitide far different even from the begining of the year on the John Thompsen show. Props to LA for maturing.

Great point that holds a lot of merit.

Bravo for a level headed post.

What has been somewhat lost in the LaVar debate is the fact that we still have a top rated defense. Take away...ohh....two or three of those big plays and we could be number two easily.

Additionally, last year Pitt and Buffalo were statistically ahead of us, so far this year our defense is better.

This is what I was wondering: Given Williams proven worth, LaVar's proven playmaking ability and LaVar's (not proven 'cause we don't know what his assignment is for a given play ... but there is enough circumstantial eveidence) freelancing - the only thing that I see that parallels LAs reduction of playing time is our corners being hurt.

That would lead me to deduce that Williams is unwilling to take any additional risk with out having Springs and Harris healthy. The other side of this assessment is that after Rodgers we are weak enough at CB that Williams dosent feel he has the flexibilty to gamble.

I have thought our recent weakness to the big play has been due to having Springs and/or Harris out for the past three weeks. It will be very interesting to see if when they are both healthy how we fair vs the big play. If I had to guess, LA's playing time will follow our CB's health until he get more discipline.

BTW- LA showed an attitide far different even from the begining of the year on the John Thompsen show. Props to LA for maturing.


Makes perfect sense to me. Having Springs back will give us a big lift..not to mention Clark as well. Once our secondary is healthy again, then I can definitely understand taking some chances at LB.

Funny, but for all the newly acquired Gregg Williams haters, take away those three big plays and look how solid this defense has been WITHOUT Lavar Arrington.

Makes perfect sense to me. Having Springs back will give us a big lift..not to mention Clark as well. Once our secondary is healthy again, then I can definitely understand taking some chances at LB.

Funny, but for all the newly acquired Gregg Williams haters, take away those three big plays and look how solid this defense has been WITHOUT Lavar Arrington.

Good defense but 2 losses in a row as the offense is playing better..they never gave up big plays last year... Solid yeah but teams are making bigger plays each week... they have no qb pressure whatso ever.... isn't that how he made his name???? Qb's have all day back there... we haven't seen any great qb's wait till u see the Mc Nabb's and Mannings and such you give those boys all day back there they will eat ur A_s Alive... your secondary just cant cover that long...but i will give those incredible Lb's a positive they are in their proper spots... and they are there on on the ground as they run by their butts too!!! I wanna see some folks run over Lavar.... yeah right!!!!!

What I can't figure out is how so many people know what is going on in the Lavar situation. No one knows whats going on so to say Williams is putting the team second and does not care if we lose is crazy. If you think that is true than your saying Gibbs is doing the same thing sence hes the head coach and I would find that very hard to believe. Its the same argument made in the Brunell/Ramsey situation that the only reason Brunell is playing is because he was Gibbs hand picked QB and they gave him such a huge contract. We now know why he made that decision and it has turned out to be the correct one. So lets not jump to conclusions.

Good defense but 2 losses in a row as the offense is playing better..they never gave up big plays last year... Solid yeah but teams are making bigger plays each week... they have no qb pressure whatso ever.... isn't that how he made his name???? Qb's have all day back there... we haven't seen any great qb's wait till u see the Mc Nabb's and Mannings and such you give those boys all day back there they will eat ur A_s Alive... your secondary just cant cover that long...but i will give those incredible Lb's a positive they are in their proper spots... and they are there on on the ground as they run by their butts too!!! I wanna see some folks run over Lavar.... yeah right!!!!!I agree but you have to remember with those two losses the O gave up 4 Turn overs 2 in our red zone. Teams did make some big plays on us last year (remember that Dallas Game).

Just saw this on the Lavar situation from Jason Whitlock on ESPN.com.



5. Redskins owner Daniel Snyder deserves credit for allowing Joe Gibbs to bench LaVar Arrington.

You hear all the horror stories about Snyder being a meddlesome owner who has ruined the Redskins. You never hear the good stuff.

How many NFL owners would let a guy they gave an eight-year, $80 million contract rot on the bench? Even if the guy was a stiff, most owners would demand that a player in Arrington's situation play simply because of the dollars involved.

Arrington, despite a 2004 knee injury, isn't a stiff. He can still do the things that made him a three-time Pro Bowler. Arrington just isn't "assignment sound" enough for Joe Gibbs and defensive coordinator Gregg Williams.

Gibbs and Williams adopted the defensive approach that has been the mainstay of Bill Belichick's New England defenses. Belichick will sacrifice athleticism at linebacker for players who will always fill the right gap.

Here's the link to the entire article. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=whitlock/051020&num=0

Just saw this on the Lavar situation from Jason Whitlock on ESPN.com.



5. Redskins owner Daniel Snyder deserves credit for allowing Joe Gibbs to bench LaVar Arrington.

You hear all the horror stories about Snyder being a meddlesome owner who has ruined the Redskins. You never hear the good stuff.

How many NFL owners would let a guy they gave an eight-year, $80 million contract rot on the bench? Even if the guy was a stiff, most owners would demand that a player in Arrington's situation play simply because of the dollars involved.

Arrington, despite a 2004 knee injury, isn't a stiff. He can still do the things that made him a three-time Pro Bowler. Arrington just isn't "assignment sound" enough for Joe Gibbs and defensive coordinator Gregg Williams.

Gibbs and Williams adopted the defensive approach that has been the mainstay of Bill Belichick's New England defenses. Belichick will sacrifice athleticism at linebacker for players who will always fill the right gap.

Here's the link to the entire article. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=whitlock/051020&num=0

I don't know, this sounds too rational for me to buy. ;)