Noble had 14 tackles and 1 sack in 16 starts last year. I don't think he's the answer, but apparently, neither are any of our other DT's.
I disagree. Stats you can't find are how many times he was doubled or how many times he prevented CG from getting doubled. He was not here to get sacks - he was here to absorb blockers.
That Guy
10-15-2005, 11:18 AM
I disagree. Stats you can't find are how many times he was doubled or how many times he prevented CG from getting doubled. He was not here to get sacks - he was here to absorb blockers.
I think he meant besides CG... CG has proved a beast and got 6 sacks last year anyways.
I was talking about Noble
redhogs96
10-15-2005, 12:14 PM
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Kevikazi
10-15-2005, 12:18 PM
We only played 4 games. If C Griffin gets a sack in every other game, he will have 6 sacks for this year as well. Everyone was raving about C Griffin last year and now some people think he's mediocre at best? To quote Nick Saban...."Give him a chance!!! Give him a chance!!!!"
skindogger47
10-15-2005, 01:16 PM
Griffen is raw and has played admirably this year. It seems like he is the only lineman that makes tackles. But I really miss Ron Warner, I think he was a great spark to our team when he came in. Does anybody know why we cut him? Other than to save a roster spot for a Pro Bowl benchwarmer? I mean how warm can you keep a bench anyway, really.
last year we used clemons(the lb) as a passrush DE and it worked well. why arent we using him(or lavar) in the same way
we are playing some zone defence, i would think it would make more sense to drop a DE who is actually a LB in coverage.
I hate to question Saint G-Dub. but we need to pressure the QB
Southpaw
10-15-2005, 09:06 PM
I disagree. Stats you can't find are how many times he was doubled or how many times he prevented CG from getting doubled. He was not here to get sacks - he was here to absorb blockers.
No one is a starter in the NFL purely to absorb blockers. Now obviously a defensive tackle isn't going to get 60+ tackles in a season, but if he can't muster 1 per game, then they may as well find a much younger, cheaper version of him to "absorb blocks". Salave'a wasn't even a starter last year, and recorded more tackles and sacks than Noble.
Thats not nececcarily true. Some schemes that don't have prevelant pass rushers, will assign their d-line to push the linemen into the back field to close of lanes of escape from the backfield.
Defensive ends are supposed to push the linemen back and square their shoulders 3-5 yards in the backfield, in order to box on a run play. But on a pass play, they are supposed to get around the tackle and get to the QB. Daniels plays every down the same, straight push.
I'm baffled as to how some of you can think that Williams is calling the plays in which the front four are supposed to just stand there and get blocked. Yes, he likes to run exotic blitzes with corners and safeties, but I guarantee that he would be much happier if the front four could create any kind of pressure on the QB so he didn't have to commit DB's to the blitz all the time.
No one is a starter in the NFL purely to absorb blockers.
Ted Washington?
The Sack is the most overrated defensive stat in the game. Points per game and 3rd down defense mean much, much more.
If you look at the top 10 teams in sacks (link (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics?stat=teammisc&pos=off&league=nfl&season=2&year=2005) ) - about half the teams are terrible (Tenn, San Fran, St Louis and Arizona) and only three are dominate (Pitt, San Diego and Indy) the rest are mediocre. My point is - sacks are in now way indicitive of good defense