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I really don't agree that a high draft pick is any easier to make than later ones. And I don't think we should discredit the team for their success with high picks.
Look at a team like the Bengals that had high draft picks for years but always found a way to screw them up.
The first rounders are under much more scrutiny and are even more researched than later picks because of the huge investment.
There are plenty of high picks that don't pan out. It's not as easy as just throwing a dart and picking a top pick.
CrazyCanuck 10-11-2005, 03:28 PM what are you talking about. DEADMONEY is money we are paying players that are not playing with the skins. How is that a good thing? We payed Deon for two years after he wasn't here. Trotter comes off after THIS YEAR. The trade for Coles is another couple of years, or it may all be this year, not really sure about how that one worked out, I know it was 9 million penalty.
The examples you give about Deion, Trotter, Coles are not wrong. The problem in these cases is that the players left or were cut even earlier than expected. Hopefully with Coach Gibbs bringing in "Redskins" these unexpected and early cuts will be at a minimum in the future.
But let's take Coles as an example. We are paying $9M of our 2005 deadcap towards Coles, and our total 2005 deadcap is close to $20M! That's almost 25% of our total cap for nothing. How can we possibly be competitive? It's because the deadcap is offset by bargains in the short-term. Look at some our other 2005 cap hits:
Chris Samuels $4,768
Sean Taylor $3,970
Mark Brunell $2,433
Clinton Portis $2,386
Shawn Springs $2,373
Jon Jansen $2,143
Randy Thomas $1,952
C. Griffin $1,923
M. Washington $1,707
Walt Harris $1,415
Santana Moss $1,140
David Patten $1,115
Casey Rabach $1,040
James Thrash $896
Ladell Betts $720
Joe Salave'a $707
Pierson Prioleau $690
Lemar Marshall $637
Mike Sellers $590
You can argue as to which of these are actual bargains, but I think we'd all agree most are cheap compared to their market value. If you add up all the savings here there's defintely more than a few million dollars. So yes if we never gave out signing bonuses, we wouldn't have Coles' ugly deadcap hit. But we also wouldn't have a starting QB at $2.4M, a starting RB at $2.4M, a #1 receiver at $1M, etc. You get the picture.
The key is to pick the right players that will be around for a while, so you don't get too much deadcap when you do have to cut them. And it seems we've been doing a much better job of this lately.
#56fanatic 10-11-2005, 03:28 PM I wrote it down, just kidding. Dude, I hope you are right. I hope we dont run into that trouble. I just find it hard to believe we wont. LaVar a bad seed, now thats another thread topic!!!
Again, we were supposed to be in cap hell after the 2000 free agent binge... what happened with that anyway?
#56fanatic 10-11-2005, 03:33 PM do you think Portis is playing for 2.4mil a year for next 6 or 8 years, however long his contract is? Thats just not true. It may be 2.4mil this year and 3. something next year, but it will go up to an awful high salary, which probably will get redone for cap space. Those players are all making low amount because of the year of the contract, samuels just signed a deal this offseason, brunell redid his this offseason, Washington is in the second year, Griffin too, only the second year. Although I think we did actually get griffin cheap because I dont think his deal escalates more than 4 or 5 million at its highest. Moss, 1st year. You get where I am going. Now some of the players are cheap, sellers, BIG JOE, they wont be cap problems. I am tired of talking about this thread, its giving me a headache. have fun!!
CrazyCanuck 10-11-2005, 03:37 PM And I wish Schneed was a girl, so I could finally get married!
TheMalcolmConnection 10-11-2005, 03:39 PM Nothing a satin tube top and pumps couldn't fix. :)
Schneed10 10-11-2005, 03:41 PM The "experts" have long said the Redskins have some of the best cap people in the business. I believe that. I just find it hard to believe that these same experts who have been doing this for a living are wrong when saying we are getting in trouble at some point the next couple of years. I hope they are all wrong, I hope I am wrong too.
I think the reason the "experts" always think we're going to run into trouble is because they do understand how money allocates under the salary cap rules, but they don't take into consideration the changing financial dynamics in the NFL. Because the NFL is growing so fast, the cap grows along with it. That's why conservative teams like the Eagles always seem to have more cap room each year, they're not taking advantage of the fact that the cap will grow.
TheMalcolmConnection 10-11-2005, 03:42 PM Daseal and I were talking about the possibility of signing Freeney next year if the Colts let him go.
Oh, to dream...
Redskins_P 10-11-2005, 03:43 PM Daseal and I were talking about the possibility of signing Freeney next year if the Colts let him go.
Oh, to dream...
Thats almost a wet dream
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