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Redskins8588 10-06-2005, 10:28 PM I Still Do Think Portis Is A Good Back. And I Still Do Believe He Will Get His 1000 Yards And Be A Very Good Option At Rb For Years To Come ,but He Needs To Score Tds.its Just That Simple.dont You Think That During Gibbs First Tenure As The Skins Coach Other Teams Were Stacking 8 Or 9 In The Box???. We Still Were Able To Punch It In On The Ground.and I Do Think Your Right Bigskinsbauer About The Offense As A Whole, But Come On Portis We Want Some Tds.NOW
In Gibbs first tenure other teams really could not afford to stack 8 or 9 in the box against us. Why? Because Gibbs would burn them with Monk, Sanders, Clark, Dider, and the list could go on. Teams knew better to do that against us.
Until Brunell can burn teams with Moss, Patten, and Cooley they will still stack the box because they know what Portis can do and what Brunell can not do...
Also you compare CP to LT, which I can see similarities. But then you say that Portis is not worth his contract, well who would you like to have? I mean remember when Gibbs came in T. Candidate was our starting RB, and with the second round pick we gave up for CP Denver got T. Bell and look at how well he is doing this year. Some say well we could have possibily got E. James or S. Alexander which may be true, but look at how many years they have been in the league and how old they already are, remember Portis just turned like 24 years old he is still young yet.
skinsguy 10-06-2005, 10:39 PM Just gotta say this: Clinton, those are some UGLY glasses man!
gibbsisgod 10-06-2005, 10:47 PM In Gibbs first tenure other teams really could not afford to stack 8 or 9 in the box against us. Why? Because Gibbs would burn them with Monk, Sanders, Clark, Dider, and the list could go on. Teams knew better to do that against us.
Until Brunell can burn teams with Moss, Patten, and Cooley they will still stack the box because they know what Portis can do and what Brunell can not do...
Also you compare CP to LT, which I can see similarities. But then you say that Portis is not worth his contract, well who would you like to have? I mean remember when Gibbs came in T. Candidate was our starting RB, and with the second round pick we gave up for CP Denver got T. Bell and look at how well he is doing this year. Some say well we could have possibily got E. James or S. Alexander which may be true, but look at how many years they have been in the league and how old they already are, remember Portis just turned like 24 years old he is still young yet.i didnt say that portis was NOT worth his contract i just said i dont think he has been playing up to it.and to set the record straight i do think he is worth it i just want some of the tds that he put up in denver(31 tds in 2 years)
Redskins8588 10-06-2005, 11:24 PM i didnt say that portis was NOT worth his contract i just said i dont think he has been playing up to it.and to set the record straight i do think he is worth it i just want some of the tds that he put up in denver(31 tds in 2 years)
Sorry for mis-quoting you and I too want some of the TD's he put up in denver, I have him on just about every Fantasy team that I have.
gibbsisgod 10-06-2005, 11:42 PM SAME HERE:httr:
dblanch66 10-07-2005, 01:02 AM Lets Be Honest, When Was The Last Time Cp Broke Open A Game. Hell, I Dont Even Know The Last Time He Scored A Td.
Dude, that's why I said "I look forward to it"... meaning...I think he can and WILL be a gamebreaker. He has gamebreaker talent and you can't hold that down for long.
Unless you're Michael Westbrook.
56FAN 10-07-2005, 07:39 AM Those glasses were bugly, butt ugly. i heard lincoln kennedy call them girly. as far as the running game goes, we need some long gainers.here's to hopin he shows the broncos some love.
dmek25 10-07-2005, 08:11 AM i love coach gibbs to death but may he be c portis worst enemy? its almost like there is too much structure in the running game.thats great for people like riggo,who can put their head down and run north and south.but clintons ability to cut back and find small creases,maybe not so good.
skins052bgr8 10-07-2005, 08:15 AM I Still Do Think Portis Is A Good Back. And I Still Do Believe He Will Get His 1000 Yards And Be A Very Good Option At Rb For Years To Come ,but He Needs To Score Tds.its Just That Simple.dont You Think That During Gibbs First Tenure As The Skins Coach Other Teams Were Stacking 8 Or 9 In The Box???. We Still Were Able To Punch It In On The Ground.and I Do Think Your Right Bigskinsbauer About The Offense As A Whole, But Come On Portis We Want Some Tds.NOW
His first tenure we were getting in the red zone alot more I would think. Defenses were totally different with caliber players, schemes, run blitzes they are stacking the box against Portis and that is why those passes to Royal, Cooley, and Sellers in the flat are open in the flat they commit to the middle and get beat outside. Portis will come as other teams game plan to beat the skins and not Portis and the running game. Portis said it best 4-0 is better than his stats and that is a good attitude instead of TO screaming because he only gets 1 or 2 balls thrown to him. No back could be doing any better with the piles Clinton has been running into and solid enough to open up our passing game more. He has had 1 100 yard rushing game and totaled over 100 last week with rushing and passing. I would say solid especially as much as him and Betts are rotating out to keep our running game fresh. If Clinto kept those rushes he would have 3 100 yard games, but they not the coaches are setting up the rotation pretty much and really team oriented and not selfish.
#56fanatic 10-07-2005, 08:34 AM Portis can not run the ball because we are gettin 8-9 men fronts. Besides the two deep balls to Moss and "the boys" we haven't made teams pay for it. Once we start making plays 20 to 30 yards down the field and make people respect our deep passing game, thats what we are going to see. I would like to see Cooley more involved in the passing game. I like his match up against safeties and LBs. this would also give Portis some room. Also, do we not know what sweep or screen is. Portis needs the ball in space, that is his strength. But, you have to give portis credit. He added about 20lbs of muscle this offseason and is sticking it right up the gut and between the tackles. I dont think we will be able to stretch the field this week, unless its Patten, but look for alot of the against KC. This week is going to be pound the ball, roll outs for 10 or 15 yard, workman like moving the ball and GREAT DEFENSE!!.
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