Here's a scenario I've often wondered about.....
You line up for a FG and there is a bad snap and for whatever reason you don't get the kick off, could the holder then stand up and 'punt' the ball through the uprights or indeed hand it to the kicker who does likewise?
onlydarksets
10-04-2005, 04:45 PM
Here's a scenario I've often wondered about.....
You line up for a FG and there is a bad snap and for whatever reason you don't get the kick off, could the holder then stand up and 'punt' the ball through the uprights or indeed hand it to the kicker who does likewise?
Sure, but it would just be a touchback.
Look what I found....
Can a kicker drop kick a field goal or does he have to have someone hold it for him?
Yes, a field goal kicker can at anytime drop kick a ball through the uprights for 3 points.
Now I know. :)
FRPLG
10-04-2005, 05:23 PM
Look what I found....
Can a kicker drop kick a field goal or does he have to have someone hold it for him?
Yes, a field goal kicker can at anytime drop kick a ball through the uprights for 3 points.
Now I know. :)
I do not believe a drop kick is the same as a punt in terms of style of kick. I think a drop kick involves dropping a ball and having it hit the ground and bounce at which time a kicker kicks the ball. If it goes through the uprights it is a field otherwise it is a missed field goal with the other team getting the ball where the player had initially dropped it. Essentially a field goal is the same accept it involves having someone catch the snap, "drop" the ball (place it) and hold it in place for a kicker to kick. Same mechanics with different parts. Simply dropping the ball and kicking before it hits the ground constitutes "punting" meaning giving possession to the other team.
Here's a good explanation:
If a punt goes through the uprights, it is a touchback, as was explained in the previous response. Here's why: in order for a field goal to count, the ball must touch the ground just before it is kicked. I wonder if your question comes after seeing some film from an old game. If so, you may be thinking of a drop kick, which looks similar to a punt. In the early days of the NFL (into the 40's & possibly the 50's) the place kick was not used. Instead of hiking the ball to the holder as it is today, the snapper would hike the ball directly to the kicker. The kicker then bounced the ball off the ground either by dropping it (or more purposely bouncing it) so that he could get his foot underneath it and kick the ball throught the uprights. This obviously had a lot of skill associated with it. As a result, the field goal was not as routine as what we see today.
The main reason the drop drop kick isn't used anymore is because the shape of the official football changed - it used to be more rounded than it is today. And the odds of making a place kick are much better than a drop kick.
I do not believe a drop kick is the same as a punt in terms of style of kick. I think a drop kick involves dropping a ball and having it hit the ground and bounce at which time a kicker kicks the ball. If it goes through the uprights it is a field otherwise it is a missed field goal with the other team getting the ball where the player had initially dropped it. Essentially a field goal is the same accept it involves having someone catch the snap, "drop" the ball (place it) and hold it in place for a kicker to kick. Same mechanics with different parts. Simply dropping the ball and kicking before it hits the ground constitutes "punting" meaning giving possession to the other team.
NOW I know, thanks for clearing that up. :)
firstdown
10-04-2005, 05:29 PM
I agree, it was a chicken shit call to have brunell just fall in the middle on first down. Why wouldnt you alteast run with the hb on first down and tell him to run up the middle. Then, after getting a penalty and forcing a rookie to make a 39 yd field goal...It shouldnt have come to that, we should have run on first and second down, and have portis just run in the middle both times, then kick on 3rd, giving you a free down to have the snapper throw it away if its a bad snap to retry on 4th.
Had he missed that field goal, Gibbs would have been reemed out. As you can tell by my threads following the game, I am still very unhappy with Gibbs coaching, yes, we are 3-0, and that is awesome. But we arent a playoff team yet and we are doing stupid things. Gibbs is afraid to coach if we have a lead. He doesnt try to pad a lead and make sure we dotn have a chance to lose in the last second, like we always do. The bears could have kicked a field goal and one, just a field goal. And we were never even in teh cowboys game, and we should have lost to seattle, he should have made that kick.
Im glad luck is on our side, we have needed it. I hope it stays with us long enough for gibbs to learn how to coach again. Yell at me now if you must, but sometimes you have to be a fan, and be realistic...The plan worked perfect thats should be enough said. To say Gibbs is a chicken he has already clucked his way to four SB's and how many playoffs. Gibbs is just a conservative play caller and he has always been, especially when he has a lead.
firstdown
10-04-2005, 05:32 PM
Look what I found....
Can a kicker drop kick a field goal or does he have to have someone hold it for him?
Yes, a field goal kicker can at anytime drop kick a ball through the uprights for 3 points.
Now I know. :)Any player can drop kick a ball at anytime as long as they are behind the line of scrimage.