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wolfeskins
10-02-2005, 08:38 PM
and can we please kill the WR screen??? they even call it when no blitz is coming! 2yd gain, loss of down, and keeps everyone up to the line of schrimmage. whats the big idea??


i think they only ran it twice today . once for a loss of 2 and the other time for a gain of 7.

SKINSnCANES
10-02-2005, 08:39 PM
those 3rd and long plays that you are referring to were at the end of the game, up to that point the skins found themselves in 3rd and very manigable on a consistant basis.
portis did average 3.6 yards a carry, not great but not pathetic either. what did betts average?
i'm quite certain the same person who's calling the plays at the beginning of the game is the same person calling them at the end.
the skins offense easily outplayed the seahawks defense today. the skins defense had a few breakdowns and thats the only reason the game was close.

yes, they were at the end of the game, when gibbs runs and hides in his shell because he has a lead. Im not saying betts is better than portis, im saying portis is better than his numbers. And I dont think the same person is calling the plays the whoel game. Musgrave calls down the play, and gibbs decides if he wants to run that play.

wolfeskins
10-02-2005, 08:48 PM
yes, they were at the end of the game, when gibbs runs and hides in his shell because he has a lead. Im not saying betts is better than portis, im saying portis is better than his numbers. And I dont think the same person is calling the plays the whoel game. Musgrave calls down the play, and gibbs decides if he wants to run that play.


i agree gibbs gets very conservative at the end of a game if his team has the lead but i don't blame him for that, he didn't think the seahawks could score on our d but the defense had some breakdowns at the end.i didn't think you were saying betts was better than portis i was just wondering what betts average was because between betts and portis the run game was very effective today. your right about the playcalling coming from the booth to gibbs and then gibbs desiding to keep it or change it but it's not coming from musgrave. musgrave is on the sidelines with gibbs.

davy
10-02-2005, 08:56 PM
Don Breaux is OC, Musgrave is Quarterbacks coach.

illdefined
10-02-2005, 08:58 PM
my understanding is playcalling comes from Jack Burns up in the booth, and Gibbs OKs or vetos it.

i'd like to hear what Gibbs thought of the running game. i credit Brunell and Thrash for lots of crisp, clutch 3rd and longs, but like Brunell and Moss themselves said, we shouldn't be in so many 3rd and longs.

we really are looking the gifthorse in the mouth tho. we converted a lot this game and that's solid proof of offensive improvement. little by little..

skinsguy
10-02-2005, 08:58 PM
gibbs doesn't like audibles cause they can result in penalties... so running into a stacked line and wasting a down is a good solution if i've ever heard it :(

I thought it was REALLY strange too, i mean seattle wasn't even trying to hide it.


LOL! That's definitely not true about Gibbs and audibles. I can understand that considering you've only had last year and this year as proof. Listening to Brunell call plays today, however, we audibled quite a few times. We run those plays to wear the defense down and consider the fact that on those long third down plays, we were converting with the pass.

The playcalling is exactly what we needed to do to keep the Seahawks offense - and our defense - off the field.

SKINSnCANES
10-02-2005, 09:00 PM
i agree gibbs gets very conservative at the end of a game if his team has the lead but i don't blame him for that, he didn't think the seahawks could score on our d but the defense had some breakdowns at the end.i didn't think you were saying betts was better than portis i was just wondering what betts average was because between betts and portis the run game was very effective today. your right about the playcalling coming from the booth to gibbs and then gibbs desiding to keep it or change it but it's not coming from musgrave. musgrave is on the sidelines with gibbs.


Portis should have had a lot higher average. He was getting 7-10 yd gains a bunch of times after we packed them off with a bunch of pass plays. My main point is why we run with 9 in the box and not audible more. There were a few times that we did, and got it to cooley, id just like to see it more. This game was a huge step in the right direction though. Doing it once was more than we did last week.

illdefined
10-02-2005, 09:03 PM
i think they only ran it [the WR Screen] twice today . once for a loss of 2 and the other time for a gain of 7.

yeah i remembered rolling my eyes a bit when the first two offensive plays in the game were a WR screen and a Counter-trey for middling yards...you can tell what i was expecting.

seriously where are all the downfield throws and stretch plays we were promised all off-season?

davy
10-02-2005, 09:05 PM
my understanding is playcalling comes from Jack Burns up in the booth, and Gibbs OKs or vetos it.

Correct...

"Burns -- an offensive consultant who has been replaced by Bill Musgrave as quarterbacks coach -- will call the initial play after occasional input from offensive coordinator Don Breaux."

SUNRA
10-02-2005, 09:09 PM
LOL! That's definitely not true about Gibbs and audibles. I can understand that considering you've only had last year and this year as proof. Listening to Brunell call plays today, however, we audibled quite a few times. We run those plays to wear the defense down and consider the fact that on those long third down plays, we were converting with the pass.

The playcalling is exactly what we needed to do to keep the Seahawks offense - and our defense - off the field.

Exactly. 12 of 17 first down conversions is very good against a nine man front. It really doesn't matter what a defense tries to do, they must execute and make the key plays and Seattle, Dallas and Chicago couldn't do it. Hail to the Redskins!

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