Huddle Report Mock Draft

Much of the Ramsey trade rumors depend on how much Gibbs would like to draft and develop a QB of his very own. Judging from what Gibbs has already said, Ramsey isn't going anywhere.

I was going to say that Ramsey was a Spurrier guy, but that wasn't even the case. Ramsey was Snyder and Cerrato's guy. Spurrier didn't have any decision to take Ramsey. In fact, if you remember, Ramsey was almost traded to the Bears after holding out.

This mock seems like a bunch of muck. I can see Marty wanting a quality left tackle but I think other teams will offer alot more than a #5 pick and Samuels for the #1 overall. However, the Ramsey trade does seem interesting to both teams. If he doesn't play for the next two years, his contract will be up and he will want big $$....for sitting.

Its that or we pay Brunell big money for sitting now.

If this were to happen, although it seems somewhat unlikely, I really like it after letting it sink in.

Here are the reasons:

-Ramsey is going to sit the majority of the time over the next couple of years. Why not get something now for him?
-No one can say Ramsey is a true franchise QB (IMO he's not mobile, not accurate enough, can't read defenses all that well)
-Hassellbeck might have shown Gibbs enough to be a decent #2 for now.
-Manning is a franchise QB who can ride the pine for a year (Jay Schroeder was a backup who played in his 2nd year)
-Samuels and Ramsey would really help the cap situation plus it would show agents like Sexton the door
-We would still get a needed DT who has good upside

Overall, it may not make sense, but think about it for a moment...

Ok, I'm a big Ramsey supporter (I still don't like the whole trade for Brunell) BUT if there was any quarterback I would want in his place, it's Eli Manning. I don't know if you guys remember, but when Peyton was coming out of Tennessee, the whispers on the approach to draft day were to the effect that he(Peyton) was highly overrated. Now, after a hell of a college career at a second-tier school playing in the SEC, arguably the best conference, on average over the last few years; the same thing is being said about Eli, with Ben Roethlisberger and Philip Rivers taking turns playing the role of Ryan Leaf . Remember, Ole Miss came two missed short field goals from beating National Champ's LSU. Point is, the kid's a winner, he's got a proven track record, all the physical ability you need (better than Peyton), no character flaws, and the pedigree from hell. When you take into account that Ramsey probably doesn't feel too good about sitting after taking a shellacking for the team during Spurrier's chuck and duck schemes last year, it might be best just to get a good, high value pick in a deep draft. WIth the Bill's pick we could still get some actual quality on D-Line, our biggest need right now.

I'd like to say "just trust the front office" but who the hell would do such a crazy thing?

If this were to happen, although it seems somewhat unlikely, I really like it after letting it sink in.

Here are the reasons:

-Ramsey is going to sit the majority of the time over the next couple of years. Why not get something now for him?
-No one can say Ramsey is a true franchise QB (IMO he's not mobile, not accurate enough, can't read defenses all that well)
-Hassellbeck might have shown Gibbs enough to be a decent #2 for now.
-Manning is a franchise QB who can ride the pine for a year (Jay Schroeder was a backup who played in his 2nd year)
-Samuels and Ramsey would really help the cap situation plus it would show agents like Sexton the door
-We would still get a needed DT who has good upside

Overall, it may not make sense, but think about it for a moment...
I take issue with the statement that Ramsey isn't a true franchise QB, especially if you're going to label Eli Manning one without him even taking one NFL snap.

Ramsey is still very green, but it's way too early to write him off.

Trading Ramsey just doesn't make sense from the persepective that Gibbs loves to have 2 quality QB's who can both play. Throwing a rookie in the mix would totally contradict his philosophy of QB depth. From what I heard about Hasselbeck he didn't show much in minicamp at all, so I think we can rule that idea out.

It also boils down to who says Ramsey is going to sit for the next couple of years? If he gets the chance to start he very well could take the starting job and run with it. Gibbs is going to go with the guy he feels the most comfortable with regardless of the dollar signs next to his name. Brunell hasn't been the most healthy guy recently so Ramsey's time could come sooner rather than later. Even if Brunell beats him out this year, next year could be a different story.

That sounds like a move someone would make on paper, completely detached from reality. Despite what some may think, Ramsey is a QB you can win with. Good mobility, great arm strength, and given the opportunity a leader. Guys will follow him to victory. You could get a taste of that last season when he would mount these combacks and fall just short. (Falling just short was usually bad playcalling). It makes no sense to bring in a vet to train a young QB and to start that young QB back at page one. Ramsey has experience, just needs a good tutor which he's never had and pass protection. I honestly believe that Brunell wouldn't be a Skin now if Ramesy would have had some protection last season, but then I also believe Spurrier would still be our coach, and even though I liked the guy, I like Gibbs WAY more!

Kingerock, I agree. Ramsey definitely is a leader, and I am hoping that he beats out Brunell in camp. BUt if he is not going to be happy here and he starts wanting to be traded, we have to look at our options.

From the salary charts, I see that Ramsey won't be a UFA until 2007, which gives us three years with a relatively small cap hit (about $1M per year). I don't think we will be able to get another QB of his quality for that type of compensation. Assuming that Brunnel starts this year and next, we get Ramsey for 2006, and then depending on his performance a new contract would have to be negotiated for 2007. Accordingly, I am now of the opinion, that it certainly doesn't make sense to trade Ramsey.

Ramsey is so cheap. THis has got to be bs.