Showtime
04-13-2004, 08:01 PM
link: http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=5109
In this ESPN chat - the editor of Pro Football Weekly says that Ramsey, along with Samuels and Gardner, is on the trading block. That's absolutely ludicrous, if true. If we somehow lose our QB of the future along with Samuels for friekin' Gallery, then someone in the front office better find the WMD before I do, b/c there will be hell to pay . . .
Trading the #5 pick AND a player like Samuels/Ramsey just to get Gallery does not make any sense at all. Not when there are gaping holes at the safety and defensive line spots. Ramsey himself is worth more than the #1 pick.
Gmanc711
04-13-2004, 08:28 PM
Pro Football Weekley said that? That makes me rest easy, to know that its not true.
jdlea
04-13-2004, 08:29 PM
Dealing Samuels and the 5 for the second overall pick is stupid. Why trade our first rounder, which is high and a good tackle for the same player Samuels already is? This is retarded. Outside of Portis the Skins offseason has sucked ass.
SmootSmack
04-13-2004, 08:39 PM
Dealing Samuels and the 5 for the second overall pick is stupid. Why trade our first rounder, which is high and a good tackle for the same player Samuels already is? This is retarded. Outside of Portis the Skins offseason has sucked ass.
We got Gibbs back!! I agree that Samuels and the 5th for the 2nd overall is a waste of trade but I'd just keep in mind that over the next days we're going to hear a lot of names and rumors, it's only natural come draft time
Ramsey on the block is pure speculation and the rumor is most likely a result of his agent more than anything. I'm not buying it at all.
SKINSnCANES
04-13-2004, 09:15 PM
Ive read a few sites that said the Redskins wont trade the 5th and Samuels for 2, think its stupid and would never do it.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha
04-13-2004, 09:17 PM
If Gibbs and Snyder intend to trade say Samuels, Gardner, and Ramsey for the #1 overall pick (which I think the Chargers would take in a heartbeat), I wouldn't be surprised or terribly disappointed.
If we traded down from the #1 to get say, a mid-first rounder, a second rounder this year, and a decent player (i.e. a good TE or DT) I'd be happy. We could take a guy like Philip Rivers (who should be available at #10), an LB (Lehman or Boulware), and pick-up a decent veteran. And, I'd like to see us trade down from #5 to #21, 32, and 56 (from New England, which they've offered for #6). We could pick up say Randy Starks, Jake Grove, and Ben Watson.
Of course, these are a lot of ifs, but I think both are VERY possible. If we lost Gardner, Ramsey, Samuels, and our #5 pick for standout center Jake Grove, Pennington-like QB Philip Rivers, DT Randy Starks, TE Ben Watson, and either LBS Teddy Lehman or Michael Boulware, I'd say we had one hell of a draft.
Samuels is going to go soon anyways, Gardner is extraneous given all our WRs, Rivers and Ramsey are a draw, Starks would help the Dline, Watson is a good receiving threat to complement blocking TE Rasby, Jake Grove would definately solidify our interior Oline, and LB Boulware or Lehman would really add depth at LB.
azskinsfan2
04-13-2004, 09:19 PM
I think the idea is crazy as well. With the new coaches (and Joe Bugel's foot up his ass) I think Samuels will get back on track this season. And no way in Dallas (oops, Hell) will we trade Ramsey for anything!!!!
SKINSnCANES
04-13-2004, 09:24 PM
Hmm, Eli Manning... Ramsey might not even play for the next two years. No one wants to give up Ramsey but if they think they are going to start Brunell for teh next two years mabye Manning isnt a bad idea. Then getting a pick for Ramsey and getting d-line help. The way the scenerio is listed above I dont think its a great idea but there are some intriguing possabilites that could come from it.
SmootSmack
04-13-2004, 09:26 PM
Ramseyfan, I'm still stunned that you of all people would say it's a draw between Rivers and Ramsey. Please explain