illdefined
09-22-2005, 10:06 AM
ugh, the WR screen. it worked for double digit yards a couple times last year with Coles, but he was better suited to it (apparently he must've hated them too). can't stand that play, just keeps the box filled up and too dangerous for a pick into a TD. but that could be considered nitpicking.
If it's executed properly a WR screen can be effective against an aggressive D, much like a draw play.
SKINSnCANES
09-22-2005, 10:22 AM
You dont run a screen when there is 8 people up from and the safties creeping in. Thats when you throw it deep or a quick slant before the rush gets there. Then once they play back you can run it, but they dont ever play us back.
You dont run a screen when there is 8 people up from and the safties creeping in. Thats when you throw it deep or a quick slant before the rush gets there. Then once they play back you can run it, but they dont ever play us back.
That's like saying you don't run a draw when there's a run blitz coming... that's exactly when you run it and again if you can execute it properly you can pop off a big gain and make a D think twice about being so aggressive.
If there's a heavy blitz coming you're probably not going to have time to go deep. That's where you need a quick hitting play.
I'm not a huge fan of the WR screen but it serves it's purpose if properly executed, which we seem to have a problem with for some reason. I'd actually like to see more RB screens.
illdefined
09-22-2005, 10:34 AM
run-blitzes make their way to the QB by filling in the running lanes, and pretty much takes away the RB draw up the middle. slants and dump offs in the vacuum of the blitzer is how you get past them. the draw is good for outside blitzes and delayed tosses are good when it's the entire house coming.
run-blitzes make their way to the QB by filling in the running lanes, and pretty much takes away the RB draw up the middle. slants and dump offs in the vacuum of the blitzer is how you get past them. the draw is good for outside blitzes and delayed tosses are good when it's the entire house coming.
You're right, I should have said blitz and not run blitz.
skinnyfan
09-22-2005, 12:59 PM
only second game in Gibbs's career that Burns is supposed to call in the plays. who know what really goes on, especially that late in that game. should we edit the thread name to "Will Gibbs/Burns Open Up the Offense Now?"
Allow me to go really radical here.....and have everyone disagree. I think ole Musgrave should be calling the plays from the booth and burns should be showing Brunell the formation prints as the game goes. Atleast Bill is in touch with modern day offense. I know this is not going to happen but I would like to see Bill talk to the QB directly instead of Gibbs.......
offiss
09-22-2005, 01:06 PM
That's like saying you don't run a draw when there's a run blitz coming... that's exactly when you run it and again if you can execute it properly you can pop off a big gain and make a D think twice about being so aggressive.
If there's a heavy blitz coming you're probably not going to have time to go deep. That's where you need a quick hitting play.
I'm not a huge fan of the WR screen but it serves it's purpose if properly executed, which we seem to have a problem with for some reason. I'd actually like to see more RB screens.
I have to agree with skinscane on this one, putting 8 men in the box doesn't mean their blitzing, what it does mean is they are ready for anything that happens around the line of scrimmage, even if they do blitz they have to many players in the box for screens and draws to be effective.
That Guy
09-22-2005, 01:37 PM
Allow me to go really radical here.....and have everyone disagree. I think ole Musgrave should be calling the plays from the booth and burns should be showing Brunell the formation prints as the game goes. Atleast Bill is in touch with modern day offense. I know this is not going to happen but I would like to see Bill talk to the QB directly instead of Gibbs.......
you realize that musgrave was run out of his last job for being too ultra conservative in his play calling right?
skinnyfan
09-22-2005, 02:12 PM
you realize that musgrave was run out of his last job for being too ultra conservative in his play calling right?
I don't think it was because of too conservative of an approach?? I'd have to question that. But a lot of people have been run out of a job because of the circumstances. I wouldn't call Jacksonville the most dynamic of offenses in the league either. I can recall a certain coach of the patriots being run out of cleveland too. I just said it was radical man.....not reality. I would like to give Bill that chance though.