SKINSnCANES
04-13-2004, 03:13 PM
For anyone that has any doubts about Taylors ability think about this: in highschool he obvioulsy played both sides of the ball, had over 100 tackles on defense. But, also set records for having over 1300 rushing yards and 44 touchtowns. Also played as a receiver and was known for having great hands...
Thats why he will make the difference on our team, not because hes any safety that makes the tackle to save the long play, but because of his knack for picking the ball and what he can do with it once he has the ball in his hands.
Taylor also blocked a few kicks for Miami last year, I dont know if they would play him on special teams but hes very gifted at seeking out the ball, even if its being punted.
NFLNetwork
04-13-2004, 03:43 PM
WHY!! Why in the world are we creating a whole and filling it?!?! If we are going to make a SB run in 3 yrs...its is IMPERATIVE we keep this 5th pick and draft someone! Taylor is the most likely to be a probowler in 2 yrs, so draft him!! Gallery will be a monster, but we have a monster in samuels. We need to do something w/ samuels contract
skinsfan46
04-13-2004, 04:00 PM
Samuels seems to be a favorite...but he has yet to impress me for the money he makes.Any o-lineman could fill his shoes.I am not encouraging the trade mentioned earlier , but I don't see any reason not to trade him.Joe Gibbs lineman work because they know the system works.In round 5 we might find a lineman that would work better in Gibbs' systen.
SKINSnCANES
04-13-2004, 04:04 PM
I started another thread dissuing replacing Samuels and the impact.
offiss
04-13-2004, 04:05 PM
I know i'm new here, but i'm going to have to disagree. I say take Tommie Harris (DT, Oklahoma). We have a much greater need on the line than we do at saftey, and this kid is the real deal. I know Taylor is a great find, but even if we trade down to get Harris and get another pick/player out of the deal I think that's the best move.
If he's the real deal, why did he disapear in every big game he played? being dominated in college usually mean's a non exisistant carreer in NFL, which mean's Not For Long if you let college linemen dominate you. I think to many are getting wrapped up in his physical attributes rather than looking at him as a football player, which goes the same for taylor, only in the opposite direction.
SKINSnCANES
04-13-2004, 04:13 PM
Yea there are so many college players to but up big numbers but whenever they play against an elite college team they are shut out. The great players are those that dominate against the elite college teams. I wonder about Fitzgerald becuase of how I saw him play against Miami, but at the same time Pitt didnt have a second receiver.
skinsfanthru&thru
04-13-2004, 04:43 PM
I'm starting to agree about drafting taylor but I'd also be for trading down to garner more picks. I've read that the skins r high on w. smith of "the Ohio State University."(why do people say it like that anyways?) he would be an awesome pass rushing de with the strength and awareness to also play the run. I've also heard good things about udeze and it's true that he came to USC as a DT. He lost over 80 pounds and became a pass-rushing beast of a DE. That says a lot to me about his desire to play the game where the team needs him. And hopefully with a trade down we could pick up Grove if lucky but if not a solid safety(the guys from georgia or purdue that a couple people have mentioned) or a good lb that has the capabilities to possibly be our starting MLB if holdman doesn't sign. But all that said I'm starting to wonder how awesome it could be to have a rod woodson type safety picking off the ball and having a chance to run it back for a big play each time. Taylor may not be the sledgehammer type tackler a lot of people r saying he is, but he tackles well enough to get the job done and his hands and awareness will be his main strength. Taylor and Gallery r probably the 2 closest things in this draft to bonafide NFL players.
Defensewins
04-13-2004, 05:31 PM
I am surprised that Winslow Jr. has not received any votes on this poll yet.
My vote is Taylor!
Regarding trading down and taking a defensive lineman, Will Smith and Udeze are the only two I would like to see the Skins try to get (in that order). Will Smith has a quicker first step and is closer to the speed rusher we need.
Plus Will Smith did more reps on the bench press work out than Udeze did, which implies he is stronger and probably works out more.
Not putting the PAC 10 down, but Will Smith played in the Big 10 which has historically more powerful offensive lineman and emphasizes the run like in the NFL. The Big 10 teams, top to bottom provides more of a test to its defensive lineman than the PAC 10 does. The PAC 10 is historically more of a pass first league.
itvnetop
04-13-2004, 06:51 PM
while i agree with you on your overall assessment of the Pac 10, i wouldn't generalize Udeze based on such. He wrecked havoc on the so-called "best of the Big 10" in the rose bowl with three sacks on Navarre and his line. I'm not sure anyone has better burst than BKU either.
SmootSmack
04-13-2004, 06:55 PM
Who said trade up for Gallery?