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SmootSmack 09-20-2005, 02:26 PM Portis is NOT supposed to have more catches than Patten, Jacobs and Cooley combined like he did last night. those check downs were what killed the drives. those dinky passes keep everyone in the box just as much as runs do.
It looked to me like the receivers were being really well-covered early on. I'm not sure why but it looked like when Patten went out and they went to Moss, Thrash and Jacobs that they were getting open. Brunell isn't going to force something that's not there
Beemnseven 09-20-2005, 02:33 PM Consider me tarred and feathered! :lol:
I've never been so happy to be so wrong!
By the way, I'll be enjoying a tall cold one tomorrow, courtesy of my favorite Cowboy fan co-worker. How's that for talking out of both sides of my mouth? :thumb:
I've got to say, though, until about 12:20 a.m. I was busy looking for change to buy him a drink tomorrow!
Hopefully, Gibbs will decide to open up the play-calling a little more in the future, to keep us poor Redskins fans from suffering through flashbacks of 2004 for 3/4 of every game.
Brunell deserves credit for hanging in there and making the clutch throws when they mattered, and leading the Skins to victory.
I'm right there with you, Joe -- feathers and all. But hey, I love it when I'm wrong with an outcome like this!
I think you and I probably overlooked the fact that sooner or later, a Joe Gibbs team will eventually make its mark, and the days of trotting off the field with our tails between our legs in the face of the slightest bit of adversity are gone. Twelve years of past Redskin performances does that to you, though.
Maybe this game truly is the turning point in Gibbs second go 'round in Washington.
illdefined 09-20-2005, 02:44 PM It looked to me like the receivers were being really well-covered early on. I'm not sure why but it looked like when Patten went out and they went to Moss, Thrash and Jacobs that they were getting open. Brunell isn't going to force something that's not there
i dunno. that exactly what was said last year. i think Brunell didn't really know what these guys are capable of until last night, and before those circumstances would refuse to throw a pass he considered 'risky'.
but that's the whole knock on Brunell, and what spurned the call for Ramsey last year and this year. Ramsey definitely took more risks, but he wasn't afraid to throw to his receivers instead of checking down. and at least last year it brought us more points (along with the INTs).
SmootSmack 09-20-2005, 02:48 PM i dunno. that exactly what was said last year. i think Brunell didn't really know what these guys are capable of until last night, and before those circumstances would refuse to throw a pass he considered 'risky'.
but that's the whole knock on Brunell, and what spurned the call for Ramsey last year and this year. Ramsey definitely took more risks, but he wasn't afraid to throw to his receivers instead of checking down. and at least last year it brought us more points (along with the INTs).
I guess then the question is are we looking for a QB who will take risks at the expense of really hurting our team with a boneheaded play, or someone who will play "not to lose" until it's absolutely necessary to take a risk. And which one is better for this team as it's currently assembled (strong D, superstar running back)
illdefined 09-20-2005, 02:54 PM I guess then the question is are we looking for a QB who will take risks at the expense of really hurting our team with a boneheaded play, or someone who will play "not to lose" until it's absolutely necessary to take a risk. And which one is better for this team as it's currently assembled (strong D, superstar running back)
yeah man, 100% agreed. i mean ideally what we're looking for is a QB who knows when he can really test the defense and who never makes boneheaded plays. hopefully Campbell will learn to be that guy, but until then, i really don't want to be tossing hail mary's in the 4th quarter to win games.
illdefined 09-20-2005, 02:59 PM even our superstar running back needs help from the QB, and keeping all the DBs under 10 yds away with the dinkdunks doesn't count.
i'm praying last night gave Brunell and the coaching staff more confidence in our air game to make it a staple, and not a last resort (or a Parcells like, trick play once a game)
That's the spirit! Take a little time to smell the roses (or Brunell's demise). Condemnation will come as is fitting (or not).
I am keeping my sig, for a while. I am not going to speak negative of Brunell or Gibbs. Brunell did something that we have not seen in a long, long time, he brought the Skins back in the 4th quarter in a big time game.
We have the bye this week and it looks as thought the football gods are smiling upon us with the early bye. Brunell will get a 'mini-camp' so to speak with the first team offence. Gibbs will have this team ready for Seattle.
I have never felt so good waking up after four hours of sleep to go to work. HTTR!
offiss 09-20-2005, 03:24 PM yeah man, 100% agreed. i mean ideally what we're looking for is a QB who knows when he can really test the defense and who never makes boneheaded plays. hopefully Campbell will learn to be that guy, but until then, i really don't want to be tossing hail mary's in the 4th quarter to win games.
How often do we think that will continue, sometimes a play will work because teams just don't think you have the capability, but once you prove you do they will prepare for it, it didn't look like to me Dallas really expected Brunell to go deep let alone actually put the ball on the money.
I do not want a Custer QB who is going to wait till all the indians have arrived before he starts shooting, I want a QB who is going to do his best to make sure we don't have to sweat out the final minutes, it's not like we don't have the talent to do it.
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