Skins interested in Gallery?/Samuels trade talks *Merged*

I might be the only one who thinks this....

But Samuels and Garnder together would be worth the 2nd pick to the Raiders... no need for a pick from next year.

They need a Reciever opposite Porter to replace Rice and Brown... and they desperately need OL help...

Just a straight up, Samuels and Gardner for the #2 seems fair enough. Both have Pro-Bowl talent. If adding anything... make it Trotter, and grab a 4th rounder from them too...

Then, we'd have Gallery at #2 (a BEAST that is younger, smarter, and a harder worker than Samuels), Taylor at #5 for the D AND cap space freedom the next 2 years... then we'd be looking GOOD for a FEW of years... not just one

this deal makes sense also with the reasoning of why not get something for samuels because we know there isn't much chance of him restructuring his deal this year or next and would likely be cut because of that next year. This provides us an oppurtunity to replace him with an awesome tackle for a lower salary and thus a better chance to also resign smoot next year or sometime this year. And I agree Hail_to_the_Redskins, the trade of Gardner and Samuels is a straight up fair trade if not more in favor of the Raiders. I mean that's practically trading a high first round and a decent 2nd round pick for one high first rounder. Maybe we could even get a 3rd or 4th round pick to come our way out of this as well. If this deal does have our 1st round pick involved then I say no deal, but from what the report read and the talent on the table, I don't think our 1st rounder will come into the picture.

plus remember gallery's importance when Ramsey is the starting QB again and is needed to guard the blind side.

I'm an Iowa fan, and Gallery is awesome, but what the skins need to do if anything is draft down. If they draft down they can get somebody like Udeze or T. Harris and a later round draft pick.

IMHO: the FO (Gibbs + Danny JB + BN Cerrato) are Extremely Idiotic to trade away Samuel.

What we should trade is the slow-footed Jansen, then draft Gallery. Jansen has been outmaneuvered by faster DE time & time again. Remember if Brunell starts, then Jansen is the blindside protector.

But then again this FO (Gibbs + Danny JB + BN Cerrato) has been making some idiotic moves such as throwing away the all importance Draft-Picks, such as (2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 7th)-rounds, as if they are leper.

Keep in mind,
1.} this 2004 Bumper_crop_Draft is deep & loaded with talents.
2.} Redskins 2003 players had been under performing under Spurier_Inferior-Coaching-Staffs, thus Redskins 2003 players trade values are not as high as they should be.

3.} Most of 2004 available Cap space has been eaten by Brunell & Portis.
4.} FP should keep the talented players for 1 more year to raise their trade values.

5.} I thought I heard Samuel said he is excited & wants to be the Gibbs—Redskins core player for years to come, in time Samuel will be willing to Re-structure his contract again for the 3rd—TIME.
6.} The short-sighted tendency of FO (Gibbs + Danny JB + BN Cerrato) in win now lose later mentality.

The top notch Front Office must be able to anticipate an upcoming Bumper_crop_Draft and stock-piles draft-picks like Belichick-Patriot.

I'd take Jansen any day of the week over Samuels and I've seen samuels beaten more than I have Jansen. As well as that Jansen hasn't missed a start has he? while recently Samuels has had ankle problems as well as shoulder or chest problems didn't he? Jansen has been the most consistently good lineman we've had in years.

I might be the only one who thinks this....

But Samuels and Garnder together would be worth the 2nd pick to the Raiders... no need for a pick from next year.


This makes sense to you because you are a Redskins fan. Come on man!
If you were the Raiders would you trade the #2 pick for Samuels (and his crazy 2004 salary), Gardner and even Trotter? Of course not.
You have to offer something good in this years deep and talented 2004 draft as well. The Raiders will not bite unless you throw in a semi-decent first round pick. The #5 pick is too much, but they will want something in the 10-18 range ...
Also remember Al Davis was burned by the Redskins in the Jay Schroeder for Jim Lachey trade. That had to be the worst trade ever for the Raiders and Al Davis. Al Davis may not want to trade Gallery to the Redskins and have him become another Jim Lachey.

This makes sense to you because you are a Redskins fan. Come on man!
If you were the Raiders would you trade the #2 pick for Samuels (and his crazy 2004 salary), Gardner and even Trotter? Of course not.
You have to offer something good in this years deep and talented 2004 draft as well. The Raiders will not bite unless you throw in a decent first rong pick. The #5 pick is too much, but they will want something ...
Also remember Al Davis was burned by the Redskins in the Jay Schroeder for Jim Lachey trade. That had to be the worst trade ever for the Raiders and Al Davis. Al Davis may not want to trade Gallery to the Redskins and have him become another Jim Lachey.
Unless Chris Samuels becomes Jim Lachey - then the circle of life is complete.

Unless Chris Samuels becomes Jim Lachey - then the circle of life is complete.
You are old enough to have seen Jim Lachey play. There is no way Samuels will ever be as good as Jim Lachey. They are both excellent pass blockers, but Lachey is twice the run blocker Samuels is or will ever be. With all the amazing physical tools Samuels has been blessed with, I have never seen Samules get angry and pancake someone. He just kind of plays good enough to get by.

Agreed Defensewins, but that was one of the reasons Lachey made it to Washington. Al Davis didn't want an offensive line built for running, he wanted the long ball. He thought he could fill the slot with a technician that could buy Schrader the time to go deep. If the Raiders are looking for a pass blocker, then a deal makes more sense for them, since (last season not withstanding), Samuels is a great pass blocker.