Ramsey and McCants

I posted this in another thread, but the similarities are hard to ignore.

But first, let's start with the differences.

Ramsey is a QB, which normally brings much more merit than a #2 or #3 wide receiver. Ramsey is a first round pick while McCants is a fifth round pick. Ramsey tried his hardest and McCants had some questionable practice habits That's basically where the differences end.

During their tenure together, Ramsey did not have the protection to get the ball to McCants effectively basically negating any progress the two could have made as a duo. Then Joe Gibbs steps in bringing his own ideas, his own beliefs on how a team should be run and instantly we have Patrick Ramsey and Darnerian McCants fighting for their respective professional lives.

Granted, work habits cannot be ignored, but neither can red zone statistics. McCants played at a decent enough level to be effective last year when he ACTUALLY got in the game. Ramsey played hard and still was not better than Brunell in preseason and there we have set the tone for the beginning of the 2004 season.

Fast forward to now, Ramsey gets benched after basically twenty minutes of action. I think what this comes down to is not the fact that Ramsey is getting benched, it's how Gibbs went about it.

McCants got benched first and then cut. Ramsey hasn't produced so well himself.

So I ask again, why are we so attached to Ramsey and we let McCants go with hardly an afterthought?

Kind of interesting you brought up McCants, especially considering how our red zone offense struggled on Sunday. He was a beast in the red zone when Spurrier was around, but perhaps it was just that system. I wish him the best, but I was disappointed by all I heard about his work ethic.

well, mccants wasn't the best at his position on the team right now... i don't think ramsey is really much better than brunell, but just getting defenders to back off for portis helps...

in fact, mccants was #5 at his highest.

Maybe because DMAC was a 7th round pick and Ramsey was a 1st round pick, who when he was selected we had all the intentions of starting him at the most important position on the field. I myself despise watching Ramsey play, too hot/cold for me, not enough consistency. DMAC I would've like to see more of though........Ramsey reminds me of a Frerrote....shouldn't be a starter but has dabbled a time or two. Ramsey is what I like to call.......bad. If he started all 16 games this year he would've thrown more picks than td's.

So I ask again, why are we so attached to Ramsey and we let McCants go with hardly an afterthought?

I was thinking this same question.

I am really upset that they never gave McCAnts a chance. I guaruntee you that if he played last year, we would have one at least 3 more games because he's the guy that can get us TDs in the end zone, and he was the only guy that could hold on to the ball.

I was really upset when he got cut and I still am. Although, I wonder if he was being too imature behind the scenes for the coach to accept so they cut him as a way of sending a message to the team.

I still trust Joe Gibbs, but I am upset that a player like McCants who could help us never got his oppurtunity.

So why do you all stick up for Ramsey and not for McCants, hmmmm??

There is no decision in football harder or more important than deciding when to throw in the towel on a QB drafted in round #1.

Right, which basically brings me to the point that we all get a little emotionally attached to our first round picks.

A PERFECT EXAMPLE = Rod Gardner

Another person who is shockingly similar to Ramsey. 1st round pick, not panning out so well, but each one of us called for him to be given another year, myself included.

Once we get past the emotional attachment, it won't be so bad.

celts32:

That decision to "toss in the towel on a QB taken in the first round" is made even harder by the fact that Danny Boy claims credit for "discovering" Ramsey at Tulane and making sure he was taken with the Skins' first pick. People don't like the decision to bench Ramesy; but on that level, what Gibbs is doing takes a huge set of onions. He's telling the omniscient Danny Boy that the QB he discovered and fawned over for several years just isn't quite good enough to get the job done here.

Anyone else want to bring that kind of news to Danny Boy when he controls your paycheck and benefits? If so, I hope you have the unemployment office on speed dial...

Very true. No one can ever call Gibbs a pansy over this.

Right, which basically brings me to the point that we all get a little emotionally attached to our first round picks.

A PERFECT EXAMPLE = Rod Gardner

Another person who is shockingly similar to Ramsey. 1st round pick, not panning out so well, but each one of us called for him to be given another year, myself included.

Once we get past the emotional attachment, it won't be so bad.

I never liked rod or champ and didn't mind watching them go... I actually like springs better even though he's not as talented (at least he doesn't bobble punt returns and doesn't purposefully trip himself to not look as bad when he gets beat badly).

I WAS a bit disappointed we lost smoot, but I knew he wasn't really the physical type of corner GW wants (though he definately tried his hardest).

I didn't feel bad about losing AP cause i was attached, but i didn't like how $1mill got in the way and killed the deal...

maybe they just didn't get as much media exposure and that's why... I never really knew much about any of them off the field.