Do you trust Gibbs?

I voted no, I don't believe he honored his word in giving [what everyone knew he said] Ramsey the starters job, I believe he paid lip service to him all the while looking for any excuse to get the teachers pet back on the field, if Brunell was doing something spectacular last year, or this, it would be another story, but he hasen't, what was so great about his preseason? Everyone looks at it being great, comparitivly to what he did last year, yes, which was nothing.

Did Gibbs make Ramsey his starter? Yes. Did he back him like other QB's he's had? Absolutly not! Gibbs himself has stated in the past that perhaps his loyalty to his starters may be a little extreme, well not in Patricks case, which tells me he really in his heart did not keep his word, all he did is pay lip service to buy Brunell some time and let the memory of one of the worst QB performances and rating's through the first 9 games in NFL history soften a bit to get his boy back on the field and justify a 42 million dollar blunder which is his fault, and his fault alone!

Wow, tough words, but I can't say I really disagree with them. I've been very troubled with how Gibbs has handled the entire QB issue for the Skins ever since he returned as coach. I can't recall that he has ever really praised any of Ramsey's efforts. But it seems like all Brunell has to do is smile and Gibbs is effusive in his praise. I just don't get it, because Brunell has done NOTHING to deserve that level of confidence since he's been here.

I am just so disgusted that the Skins are, once again, embroiled in controversy and so early in the season. It was, IMO, totally unnecessary and it was Gibbs' botched handling of the QBs that has brought this all on. Can't be good for the team to have this major distraction right before Dallas.

from the washington post:

"Brunell said yesterday that the injury was not a factor to his play last season, and that he didn't undergo any rehabilitation.

Brunell, who turns 35 on Saturday, dismissed the notion that his arm is stronger than last year."

Gibbs wasn't truthful about giving Ramsey 'every opportunity' and isn't being truthful about Brunell's 'injury'. i think the poll should be changed to do you have FAITH in Gibbs, because TRUSTING him these days should be hard for anyone.

You're looking at this from an outsider's point of view. Gibbs never gives much to the media and I'm sure he encourages his players and coaches to do the same.

Brunell doesn't want to make excuses for his poor play last year and frankly who wants to hear it.

The proof is on the field. Brunell's passes have more zip & he's a heck of a lot more accurate. Something is different, whether he admits it or not it's obvious something changed from last year.

I have been thinking about this again, yet another night....there really isn't a QB controversy. Gibbs made a change and that's it. Its US and the media that think its a controversy. I have not heard anyone from within the organization that has said anything about this move. Usually when there is turmoil, you start to hear reports from "anonymous" players voicing there is a problem. This HAS NOT happened. There is NO controversy and the Skins will move on regardless of who is playing QB.

So there, these threads have become meaningless...LOL.

Can't be good for the team to have this major distraction right before Dallas.

However, this could be like last year when there was all that internal strife among the Giants because of practice start times (or something like that) and we were all like "This will be a cakewalk, the Giants are spending too much time beating each other. They can't beat us"

Well, wouldn't it you know it. They could and did

I have been thinking about this again, yet another night....there really isn't a QB controversy. Gibbs made a change and that's it. Its US and the media that think its a controversy. I have not heard anyone from within the organization that has said anything about this move. Usually when there is turmoil, you start to hear reports from "anonymous" players voicing there is a problem. This HAS NOT happened. There is NO controversy and the Skins will move on regardless of who is playing QB.

So there, these threads have become meaningless...LOL.

not really, It is gibbs call, and the team has been great at towing the company line, but fans are allowed to voice that they're unhappy with the move, whether it changes anything or not.

but your right its not really a controversy as much as an outrage of sorts ;)

Do I trust Joe Gibbs?.....I am in love with the guy for goodness sakes! He has my support full throttle when any decision he makes. That is what being a FAN is all about supporting your team and their decisions, good or bad.

However, this could be like last year when there was all that internal strife among the Giants because of practice start times (or something like that) and we were all like "This will be a cakewalk, the Giants are spending too much time beating each other. They can't beat us"

Well, wouldn't it you know it. They could and did

Forgot about that, you're right. Maybe the team can use all of this as a rallying point (as if they should need one against the hated Cowboys)!

Forgot about that, you're right. Maybe the team can use all of this as a rallying point (as if they should need one against the hated Cowboys)!

See that? We agree on something! :grouphug:

I had to vote yes. I do trust him from my own standpoint as a fan. I trust he makes decisions based on what he feels is best for the team, and that's what he's there to do. If I were Ramsey would I trust Gibbs... nope. If I were anyone else would I.... yup. Brunell and Campbell are Gibbs's QBs. Ramsey was Snyder & Cerrato's guy. I like Ramsey, and at the end of last year I thought he was going to come out of his slump and start developing into a good QB. It pained me to see what was happening and I would've given him every excuse in the world to fail. Thats why Im not the coach of the Washington Redskins.

Do I trust Joe Gibbs?.....I am in love with the guy for goodness sakes! He has my support full throttle when any decision he makes. That is what being a FAN is all about supporting your team and their decisions, good or bad.

I agree with you there to a certain extent. We had a conversation here a while ago about the difference between being a hardcore fan and a fanatic. Most people think that the word fan truly came from fanatic.

The only different between the two is the lack of reason.

Like you, Gibbs and company have my backing and support of the Brunell move even though I don't personally approve.

However, if Gibbs decided that doing an entire roster overhaul mid-season, I might have to start questioning his motives. It's one thing to follow a team and another thing to BLINDLY follow a team. I think that most of us here are the former (and it seems like you are too). I'm basically just wondering what you would think if Gibbs decided that our WRs were terrible and we needed to release them now and sign some practice squadders.