Do you trust Gibbs?

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illdefined
09-13-2005, 04:40 PM
can we start another poll as well? "Did you trust Joe Gibbs last season?"

JWsleep
09-13-2005, 04:41 PM
Here's my short-term reason: we really don't have a good QB. We're gonna win with D and the run, so turnovers and 3rd down efficiency are what matter. In that--going by preseason and yesterday, not by 2004--Brunnell appears to have the edge. Gibbs sees the QBs everyday, so I'll trust him on this.

Long-term reason: he switched QBs a lot before, and won. He feels more comfortable with Brunnell, and his gut-feelings about QBs have been reliable in the past.

ABout all this "Gibbs lied" stuff: He never said Ramsey is my starter, whatever he does out on the field. He also said: committ TOs and you wont play. He gave Ramsey the vast majority of play with the first-stringers, and the majority of snaps in practice. Then Ramsey did indeed start the first game, despite having been outplayed by Brunnell in preseason. Then he comes out and throws an INT and fumbles twice.

Ramsey didn't step up and remove the doubts. Yeah, I know, the pressure was on him, peolple lacked condfidence in him, etc. BUt this is the NFL. You have to be able to handle just this sort of pressure. So I trust GIbbs even in the face of this quick switch.

The timing of the switch was awkward, but after wrestling with it and consulting his coaches, he felt that it was right. It was a tough decision, and it may fail. He stepped up and did what he thought would be best for the team, and admitted in wouldn't be popular. It may be his downfall. But taking this sort of risk is what leadership is about. It's not a popularity contest.

I trust Gibbs.

offiss
09-13-2005, 04:42 PM
I voted no, I don't believe he honored his word in giving [what everyone knew he said] Ramsey the starters job, I believe he paid lip service to him all the while looking for any excuse to get the teachers pet back on the field, if Brunell was doing something spectacular last year, or this, it would be another story, but he hasen't, what was so great about his preseason? Everyone looks at it being great, comparitivly to what he did last year, yes, which was nothing.

Did Gibbs make Ramsey his starter? Yes. Did he back him like other QB's he's had? Absolutly not! Gibbs himself has stated in the past that perhaps his loyalty to his starters may be a little extreme, well not in Patricks case, which tells me he really in his heart did not keep his word, all he did is pay lip service to buy Brunell some time and let the memory of one of the worst QB performances and rating's through the first 9 games in NFL history soften a bit to get his boy back on the field and justify a 42 million dollar blunder which is his fault, and his fault alone!

Gmanc711
09-13-2005, 04:42 PM
I voted yes. But its by far the most laxadazical yes I could have given. I'm saying yes purley based on what he did in the past, but his time with that is running out really, really quick with me.

He did say Ramsey was going to be the guy, and lied. So I dont know.

That Guy
09-13-2005, 04:43 PM
trust him in what way? trust he loves the team? trust he thinks he's doing the right thing? trust him to win it all this year?

RedskinRat
09-13-2005, 04:43 PM
Offiss, Coach gibbs past doesn't in any way suggest he's that kind of man.

I honestly believe that we are not seeing what the caoching staff are seeing. There is something that will come to light after Ramsey has left.

Sammy Baugh Fan
09-13-2005, 04:43 PM
Brudlee,
I would suggest that football has always been based on performance and not promises. Your boss for instanced propmised you a job but if you were dropping stuff all the time, could not focus on the task at hand or get the project any further, let alone you bumped you head. He would set you down, get the next guy to get the job done for the team.

I say it makes the players step it up and fight for their job and not think about what was promised.

Plus I don't think anyone here can quote the Coach saying "I Promise P. Ramsey will be the starter"

"He's our starter" Yes
"He's our guy" Yes

peace to ya bro
mike

Sammy Baugh Fan
09-13-2005, 04:46 PM
Plus I said Joe Crisp was the coolest here but I would start MattyK

lol

SmootSmack
09-13-2005, 04:46 PM
Simple question - not a simple answer.

I trust Gibbs to make the decisions that he feels are best to elevate this franchise to its former glory. Therefore, I vote yes.

However, my fear is that there is now an element of distrust on the team. Every member of that starting offense was told that the franchise had faith in Patrick Ramsey - and the history of faith in a starting quarterback lasts longer than 19 minutes (see Brunell, Mark - 2004). Those players who made a bond with Ramsey based on the stated faith in Ramsey have reason to question the things that come out of their coach's mouth now.

I'm going throw out this possibility, as far-fetched as some may believe it to be. What if the players really don't have that much faith in Ramsey? What if some of the veterans (let's say Springs and Patten for the sake of argument) went to Gibbs in recent weeks and said "Coach, I know you declared Ram the starter, but we're not so sure about that. We don't feel he's ready yet?"

offiss
09-13-2005, 04:48 PM
I am also tired of this fumbled twice nonesense, he didn't turn the ball over on one of those, shall we count the INT's Brunell would have had last year, and to come, when they go throw a defenders hands? Portis had a fumble as well should we bench him? Ramsey had 1 bad throw, the 1 fumble we did lose he has hammered in the throat like he was a member of the WWF, after throwing a TD I might add, which what else is new a ref who can't see our WR's getting raped downfield see's something no one else see's and negates a TD.

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