The Twilight Zone

I don't think this is the Twilight Zone at all. I think all of this is relatively clear.

Given a free choice, I believe that Joe Gibbs wants - and wanted last year - to play Mark Brunell at QB over Patrick Ramsey. But Brunell was awful last year and Ramsey did well enough at the end of the season to earn Gibbs' - grudgingly offered - word that Ramsey would be the starting QB this year. But I don't think Joe Gibbs was happy about having to have made that promise and I think he always in his mind had Patrick Ramsey on a VERY short leash.

He never said he would give Ramsey the same time to prove himself unworthy of the starting job as he did for Brunell last year. And since he would have rather had Brunell in there in the first place, why is anyone surprised that the hook came out quickly.

I believe that in September 2005, Mark Brunell is equally competent to lead this team to victory as is Patrick Ramsey. Assuming neither gets hurt during the year, that will probably be my assessment in January 2005. What Ramsey brings to the team is the fact that he MIGHT develop into a better QB and be the leader here for 5 or 7 years into the future. That's not gonna happen with Brunell.

Joe Gibbs did not make some kind of "deal with the devil" here and he does not "speak with forked tongue." He is more concerned with winning games now than he is with positioning the roster to win some as yet unscheduled games in 2008. You don't have to like that or agree with that, but I really think that's about all there is to this brouhaha.

I just hope that Monday night we can see at least 75% of his "old" form, and by that I mean his Jacksonville form.
well he averaged about a 85 qb rating in jacksonville
75% of that is 63....man that just happens to be the same as last year

I'm not expecting Brunell to light up the stat sheet on Monday night. Maybe just something like 12 of 17, 110 yards and a TD (and NO TURNOVERS). Even less than that perhaps. The star of the game will be Portis. He is and should be the star of all our games. Brunell is just there to help him shine.

Ramsey has a lot of potential and seems like a good guy, but if being a good guy is what mattered then NY_Skinsfan might as well start at QB and what good is potential if he doesn't realize it? I really wish that Ramsey had done better this preseason. I wish he had gone out there and said "I've been given this job and now I'm going to show all of you why I deserve it." But he didn't, he didn't seal the deal.

That being said about Brunell he comes into the cowboys game and plays horrible 2 turnovers, 6 points by field goal, 140 yards passing, and a loss, do you think gibbs pulls him because of the turnovers or the ineffective play. I just do not see it happening. Twilight Zone 8 games at that level and Gibbs finally goes to Campbell and another season lost. That also would then from the previous post make gibbs a hypocrite and his players seeing the QB play at that level and be given another long leash will be the downfall. All hypothetical, but I just wonder what Gibbs does?

He starts Campbell! Yay!

Ramsey is no Vick, so let's not start comparing the two on equal ground.

As for religion having anything to do with this, that's just silly. Ramsey is also a very religous person, so this argument makes no sense.

Gibbs didn't get into the Hall of Fame by making personel decisions based on a player's religion. To try to make that connection is really reaching.

Yep Matty, your right not only Brunell, but Ramsey as well is a professing Christian, as is Gibbs.......I hate it when these people try to put some kind of slanted label/angle when there is none......
James Brown on Fox did the same thing when interviewing Gibbs last year asking him if he went out of his way to sign Brunell because they are both Christians, when Ramsey is a Christian too.....shows you how much the media doesn't research the topics they report/interview on.

Athletic ability no question on a different level, but as far as mistakes that Vick makes as a passing QB very similar to Ramsey. Very ineffective but definitely a playmaker with his legs and threat to run, so the comparison to Vicks passing ability and Ramsey are very comparible. I think the comparison is that Schaub looked so good in preseason and some of the times he came in and Vick struggled in several games with passing. Gibbs unsure with Vick passing as a QB and benches him for Schaub.

I'm not expecting Brunell to light up the stat sheet on Monday night. Maybe just something like 12 of 17, 110 yards and a TD (and NO TURNOVERS). Even less than that perhaps. The star of the game will be Portis. He is and should be the star of all our games. Brunell is just there to help him shine.


thats ironic though, cause it doesn't really work... the fast receivers are there to get people out of the box, and having a guy that throws to the closer passsing options and puts up 100 yards a game isn't going to do that, and isn't going to offer portis ANY help. It just going to make portis and the oline have to work even harder.

otoh, ramsey may make the defense work harder ;), but they're a much better unit.