Ramsey wants to be traded (merged)

Lady T sorry to correct you but it was atleast 9 or 10 games. :) I agree with your remarks though for the most part!!!!

If by a better grasp you mean throwing the ball short of first downs on most third downs then this offense is doomed from the start.

Dude, you're just tossing stuff out there to see if it sticks.

Brunell converted 3 out of 6 on 3rd downs throwing. He didn't convert on 3rd and 1 with a sneak, but he converted on 4th down with a sneak.

All in all he was was personally responsible for converting 4 out of 8 3rd and 4th down chances.

I agree with Terry Bradshaw.....http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/4862814

As posted in the NEWS WIRE section, courtesy of 'crlesh'.

That's a great point Terry outlines... Campbell can't do any worse.

Brunell throws the fade much better then Ramsey, plus mobility = week 2 starter.

:dallas:

Coach Gibbs, his staff are continually assessing all aspects of the game.

I doubt whether they arbitrarily change QB's because someone has a 'feeling'. How would you feel if it turns out that the coaching staff have identified something in Ramsey's decision making, mechanics or learning curve that make him unable to do what they ask?

I trust the call being made. I don't believe we have all the information and I think that Coach Gibbs may even be trying to save Ramsey public humiliation. No one would question Parcells if he yanked a QB.

it's the turn overs that's all, gibbs like's him but too many turn overs. our margin for error is still pretty small,gibbs first time around was about a team concept that stressed sound football with out penalties and turnovers.it's same now. he warned everyone, cut down on the mistakes . he didn't and was pulled.
he also takes unneccesary loses instead of throwing the ball away.after all that i really like him,but i admit he's his own worst enemy

In rethinking everything that's been said, I've come to a very scary conclusion.

Gibbs obviously doesn't think Ramsey is the QB to get the job done. But the comments he made at yesterday's PR also indicates he doesn't necessarily see MB as the man either. Gibbs said something to the effect that he's still waiting for someone to take over as QB - not exactly a ringing endorsement of MB. In fact this move almost smacks of desperation - something that I find very troubling so early in the season.

Since the rookie is obviously not ready to take on the starting role - that leaves us with a whole lot of nothing at the most important position on the team.

An earlier poster said something to the effect that this whole scenario has them scared. Me, too.

Are you surprised by that? What on God's green Earth would ever make anyone think we have a good NFL quarterback on our roster?? We just need a caretaker, someone who won't turn it over and will direct the offense just enough to support our defense. If we're going to win, we're going to have to do it like Dilfer and the 2000 Ravens.

We cannot have turnovers. Ramsey is a fumbler because he holds onto the ball too long. We can't have that.

very good point illdefined about the emotional ties to people, including coaches. Money invested talks to I suppose. We will see the performance on Monday for starters, in addition, don't think that Ramsey won't see another opportunity.

how would you rate last year's assessment?

No, I don't. But then, let me turn your question around.

On what basis does Gibbs believe Brunell is the man? Based on his 8 horrible games of last year, based on his few quarters of playing time in this year's pre-season?

What, exactly, has Brunell done since coming here to earn the starting job?

It's maybe not so much of what Brunell has done, but what Ramsey hasn't done.

Look, Brunell wasn't 100% healthy last year. He's healthy now and played well during the preseason showing accuracy, poise and more control of the offense.

Ramsey on the other hand has flopped. If Ramsey was lighting things up there wouldn't be a question as to who the starter should be.

Ramsey has nobody to blame but himself. He had a chance to claim the job, he didn't step up.

We shouldn't be blaming Gibbs here. Blame Ramsey for not stepping up his game and leaving no doubt as to who should be starting.

no one will answer this: if Brunell was indeed visibly hurt, why would Gibbs keep playing him and losing game after game after game when he had a healthy young QB with experience sitting next to him? who started winning games once he was finally put in? *this* is why we're allowed to question Gibbs in the first couple years of his comeback. you accuse people of being emotionally tied to people, but why doesn't that apply to coaches?

sigh. anyone? anyone?