Ramsey wants to be traded (merged)

If by a better grasp you mean throwing the ball short of first downs on most third downs then this offense is doomed from the start.

What results? Ramsey was given, literally, less than half a game! This move by Gibbs at this point in the season is nothing but a joke.


No, I disagree.....last year how he left Brunell in for several miserable games was a joke (see, I'm disagreeing with the infallible Gibbs:), to leave an inadequate Ramsey in for another two or three games would have been a joke.

Yes, I said it..."inadequate"! And don't give me this, "he was only in for three drives and Gibbs benched him" stuff.

BTW, I still think Ramsey will prove to be very solid NFL QB, unfortunately it won't be here in Washington. I like his chances in Miami or Tampa or Cleveland.

What results? Ramsey was given, literally, less than half a game! This move by Gibbs at this point in the season is nothing but a joke.


Do you really think Gibbs based his decision soley on what Ramsey did against the Bears??

Why does everyone write off last season in their judgement of Brunell? I really need to know what it was? Because he was hurt? He got in hurt in Jacksonville, too. That's why they got rid of him! For a younger, stronger armed quarterback.

Well we know what Gibbs means when he says who his starting Qb is.

What results? Ramsey was given, literally, less than half a game! This move by Gibbs at this point in the season is nothing but a joke.


LT, Gibbs didn't just look at the film from the Chicago game and decided to bench Ramsey....come on.

Do you really think Gibbs based his decision soley on what Ramsey did against the Bears??


I thought this thread would be full of "where should we trade Ramsey" talk. If Gibbs is consistent then Ramsey is on his way out of town, this is the 2nd time Ramsey has asked to be traded so clearly the guy wants out. I say ship him out and try to recoup the first round pick we traded for Campbell, we should hopefully be able to get a 2nd round pick.

Do you really think Gibbs based his decision soley on what Ramsey did against the Bears??

No, I don't. But then, let me turn your question around.

On what basis does Gibbs believe Brunell is the man? Based on his 8 horrible games of last year, based on his few quarters of playing time in this year's pre-season?

What, exactly, has Brunell done since coming here to earn the starting job?

What makes you think Ramsey gave us a better chance? Is this just a feeling you have?

2004

Well Gibbs has a feeling it's Brunell, somehow I trust his feelings more than ours.

like in 2004?

Personally I'm willing to give a healthy Brunell a 2nd chance. A 2nd chance in an improved offense, with a QB that looks to have a better grasp on the offense.

no one will answer this: if Brunell was indeed visibly hurt, why would Gibbs keep playing him and losing game after game after game when he had a healthy young QB with experience sitting next to him? who started winning games once he was finally put in? *this* is why we're allowed to question Gibbs in the first couple years of his comeback. you accuse people of being emotionally tied to people, but why doesn't that apply to coaches?

In rethinking everything that's been said, I've come to a very scary conclusion.

Gibbs obviously doesn't think Ramsey is the QB to get the job done. But the comments he made at yesterday's PR also indicates he doesn't necessarily see MB as the man either. Gibbs said something to the effect that he's still waiting for someone to take over as QB - not exactly a ringing endorsement of MB. In fact this move almost smacks of desperation - something that I find very troubling so early in the season.

Since the rookie is obviously not ready to take on the starting role - that leaves us with a whole lot of nothing at the most important position on the team.

An earlier poster said something to the effect that this whole scenario has them scared. Me, too.