Official Bench Ramsey / Start Brunell Thread

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Sheriff Gonna Getcha
09-11-2005, 09:00 PM
As I've said in other threads, there isn't a clear-cut answer to the Ramsey-Brunell debate. However, I would like to see Gibbs give the same support for Ramsey that he gave Brunell last year. It does make me wonder a bit when Gibbs seems ready to yank Ramsey and plug in Brunell at the first opportunity.

wolfeskins
09-11-2005, 09:08 PM
gibbs just does not like ramsey, i think that is obvious

LadyT
09-11-2005, 09:10 PM
Ramseyfan, you're right when you said Ramsey is owed the same amount of confidence that Gibbs gave to Brunell last year. He kept Brunell in at least 3 games too many, as we slowly watched our season slide away with Brunell's less than average play at quarterback.

It amazes me how Gibbs is letting Ramsey just "dangle in the wind". To his credit, Ramsey is a class act and has not publicly said anything about how he has been treated this year.

I've always thought the world of Joe Gibbs, but his shameful treatment of Ramsey has me rethinking my opinion of him. It's because of Gibbs that we already have a QB controversy and we've only played one game!!!!!

gusbus
09-11-2005, 09:12 PM
Ramesy was what 6-11 for 105 yrds in 1 1/2 qtrs. Brunnell was 8-14 for 70ish on 2 1/2 qtrs. What are we debating this for? PR had 1 pick early on then settled down and moved the team pretty well. I think Gibbs is looking for any reason to bench Patrick. PR should have come in at the start of the second half, he was cleared to play. Brunnel looked good in the preseaon but he played 2nd half when the scrubs played. I think we need to remember that this is what PR's 17th career start and a lot of those he got shelled when Spurrier was here. Gibbs needs to declare PR his QB or let him get out b/c he is going to be a good QB in the NFL if he is given the chance and not looking over his shoulder. This is not a Super Bpwl team this year so let PR get his snaps and build some confidence and rapport with the team. And let Brunnel (Scott?) be a quality backup if Ramsey is injured.
I would like to now why Gibbs has so much loyalty to Brunnel and none to Ramsey. Both are devoted Christians. It must be the AARP membership club thing.

skinsguy
09-11-2005, 09:17 PM
I think the ones making this a QB controversy are some of the fans and the media.

hurrykaine
09-11-2005, 09:28 PM
Hi all...back after a long hiatus, though have stealthily visited the site from time to time without posting. Nice to get a win, and good to see the O-line be able to produce a number of smashmouth running plays, and a few long pass plays against a tough and stingy defense. Much better blitz pickup ability than last year.

Never thought I'd be saying this after the way Brunell stunk up the joint last year, but this year, he looks like a different QB.

Right now, MB gives us the best chance to win. Ramsey is too inconsistent, slow to make decisions, and turnover prone. In a little over a quarter of action, Ramsey threw an INT and fumbled twice (one of which was a turnover after he got leveled). Both fumbles were caused by him not getting rid of the ball fast enough. He has become too predictable for opposing defenses - they all know that blitzing him often will force him into poor decisions and lead to turnovers. I shudder to think of what Dallas will do to us next week with Ramsey at QB.

While, I'm at it, another fumble or key drop by Antonio Brown, and he should be cut. Starting players because they have great potential (cannon armstrength or blazing speed) is useless if those players are turnover prone.

If Gibbs decides to start PR next week, he should be on a tight leash - win the game for us against the Cowboys, or Brunell starts - of course, Ramsey shouldn't be threatened with this, since we all know how that could be disastrous for his psyche. However, if he can't put up decent points against Dallas like, say Drew Brees did today, Gibbs should announce Brunell the starter the following week. I'm sick of hearing about Ramsey's potential without him producing tangible, consistent results.

overthehillgang
09-11-2005, 09:33 PM
Gibbs does not like Ramsey. He thinks Ramsey turns the ball over too much. Gibbs would rather roll the dice with Brunell who can't throw the ball downfield. What happened to the zip he had in preseason?

I find myself torn between pulling for the Skins and pulling against Brunell.

NYCSkin
09-11-2005, 09:39 PM
Ramsey getting injured gave Gibbs the easy way out. Brunell is his guy. I think he figures if his QB doesn't make mistakes, then between Portis and the D, that should keep things close and we can win/lose on late field goals. With Ramsey there is the risk of a three int, two fumble game in Gibbs' mind. Even with our defense that would be tough to overcome. Even the best defense in the league has a tough time when given a short field (like today after Brown's fumble).

sniks
09-11-2005, 09:45 PM
Been reading the posts on this board for a couple months now and enjoy it very much.Ive been a redskins fan for manny many years.I live in CT. so i get alot of info on the team from the WARPATH.You guys r doing a great job!!!!! I think joe gibbs is a god after all he won 3 superbowls with 3 different QB's.I also think he wants ramsey to run the team but ramsey isnt showing him anything to have cofidence in him.The real problem is Brunnel isnt either and gibbs is the 1 who went and got him.I am glad we won today, but it looks like nothing has changed.I am having a hard time understanding why we cant score points.Barring an injury,I guess the bottom line is gibbs has to settle this QB situation now and stick with him no matter what happens.There is too much talent on this offense NOT to be able to score points.In my opinion it should be Ramsey

skinsguy
09-11-2005, 10:01 PM
Not sure why people are having a hard time realizing we were up against a tough defense...

As matter of fact...The Bears were pretty much a mirror image of us...

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