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djnemo65 08-29-2005, 05:10 PM What's interesting is that if the Skins had made that move for Clarett people would be calling for Snyder's/Gibbs'/Cerrato's collective heads. Just goes to show that even the best of FO are prone to making some personnel mistakes and blunders.
It's even starting to look like we got the best of the Champ/Portis deal. Champs a little nicked up right now, but only time will tell.
To be fair, the media has been quite critical of Shanahan's performance as GM in Denver, and I'm sure this will only fuel that fire. I think the difference in relation to the Skins is that Denver has been able to make the playoffs pretty consistently, whereas we have not. But this really does reek of unbelievable incompetence and just leaves me scratching my head.
Defensewins 08-29-2005, 06:49 PM It is not incompetence. Shanahan has a pair of brass balls and is not afraid to cut a guy that has not been healthy enough to play in a single preseason game. He does not care what the media and fans say. Yet they go to the playoffs almost every year.
Redskins, on the other hand are afraid to admit when they are wrong and (for example) cut someone like Taylor Jacobs, who like Clarrett is never healthy. Freaking Michael Barrow is another example. We held on to him way too long.
That probably contributes to why we have been to the playoff once in 12 years.
offiss 08-29-2005, 07:18 PM It is not incompetence. Shanahan has a pair of brass balls and is not afraid to cut a guy that has not been healthy enough to play in a single preseason game. He does not care what the media and fans say. Yet they go to the playoffs almost every year.
Redskins, on the other hand are afraid to admit when they are wrong and (for example) cut someone like Taylor Jacobs, who like Clarrett is never healthy. Freaking Michael Barrow is another example. We held on to him way too long.
That probably contributes to why we have been to the playoff once in 12 years.
Barrow to long? 1 season?
That Guy 08-29-2005, 07:21 PM It is not incompetence. Shanahan has a pair of brass balls and is not afraid to cut a guy that has not been healthy enough to play in a single preseason game. He does not care what the media and fans say. Yet they go to the playoffs almost every year.
Redskins, on the other hand are afraid to admit when they are wrong and (for example) cut someone like Taylor Jacobs, who like Clarrett is never healthy. Freaking Michael Barrow is another example. We held on to him way too long.
That probably contributes to why we have been to the playoff once in 12 years.
what about overpaying hasbeens and bad coaching? I think thats a bigger part of the problem then a couple low risk investments... i mean, barrow and jacobs really aren't/weren't making that much compared to bruce or deion.
they drafted three corners in the 3rd round and a RB no one else wanted till sometime in the 6th round... drafting that far off board for someone nobody wanted and then cutting him isn't brass balls, its f%^&ing stupid.
STPainmaker 08-29-2005, 08:08 PM what about overpaying hasbeens and bad coaching? I think thats a bigger part of the problem then a couple low risk investments... i mean, barrow and jacobs really aren't/weren't making that much compared to bruce or deion.
they drafted three corners in the 3rd round and a RB no one else wanted till sometime in the 6th round... drafting that far off board for someone nobody wanted and then cutting him isn't brass balls, its f%^&ing stupid.
Bruce, and Deion were the worst moves...extremely painful watching Bruce Smith play week after week. Deion was the only thing worse. :vomit-smi
I think Shanahan is on the hot seat in Denver, and this latest gaffe doesn't help his cause very much.
You can call it balls, I say using a 3rd rounder on a RB who was slated to go in the 6th or 7th round plain dumb.
To be fair, the media has been quite critical of Shanahan's performance as GM in Denver, and I'm sure this will only fuel that fire. I think the difference in relation to the Skins is that Denver has been able to make the playoffs pretty consistently, whereas we have not. But this really does reek of unbelievable incompetence and just leaves me scratching my head.
Yeah I heard him taking quite a bit of criticism on the radio today, deservedly so.
JWsleep 08-29-2005, 09:09 PM Fox sports (AP) on Shanahan, for what it's worth... Shanahan admits to making mistake on Clarett (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/4064498)
12thMan 08-30-2005, 01:07 AM Barrow to long? 1 season?
I agree with you that 1 year isn't too long, but it just seemed to really drag on and on... I think to most it probably felt more like 2 years because every week and even into camp this year they kept saying he's right around the corner from coming back.
Defensewins 08-30-2005, 10:42 AM Barrow to long? 1 season?
My problem with holding on to players like Barrow or Taylor Jacobs is they are taking up a valuable roster spot and salary cap space that could be used for a young developing player like the next Antonio Pierce or the next James Thrash. Gibbs' coaching staff is great at developing young talent. They do not have to be high draft picks. Keeping a guy like Taylor Jacobs just because he is a higher draft pick (2nd round) is exactly what I was referring to that Snyderratto can never admit to being wrong and just moving on. They take forever to cut certain guys that are a higher investment and have done nothing on the field in years...like Jacobs. Ladell Betts was in that same category, but he had a great year last year and is playing awesome this preseason. Jacobs continues on the same path, this time he hurt his toe in his sleep.
Regarding the Broncos and them cutting their draft picks....you need to put it into perspective ...when you have a talented squad, it is not easy for draft picks to make the team, especially anyone drafted lower than in the first round. The redskins had the same situation during their powerful super bowl years in the 80-90's. I am sure the New England patriots draft picks this year will have the same problem.
What is bad is if you have a losing team with no depth and your draft picks continue to fail.
The true measure of success is making the playoffs and winning a superbowl, NOT if your draft picks make the team. The Denver press and fans should shut up and enjoy rooting for a playoff team. They could have it worse....like only seeing the playoffs once in 12 years.
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