Punter debate

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Kevikazi
08-27-2005, 08:07 PM
Tupa is also a holder for John Hall during field goals. It may not sound like an important position, but I think having a reliable holder is crucial.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
08-27-2005, 08:11 PM
Tupa is also a holder for John Hall during field goals. It may not sound like an important position, but I think having a reliable holder is crucial.

That is an EXCELLENT point Kevikazi. I didn't think of it but I am glad you did.

BossHog
08-27-2005, 08:17 PM
Tupa was so good last year. Not only was he able to boot the ball 50+ yds at times, he could also drop in inside the 20 better than anybody. I know he has some back problems, but unless proven wrong, he is still one of the best in the league. To have the kind of average he had last yr with all the times we punted says something.

What a difference a year makes, huh? An injured punter isn't going to do any team any good. And goes for guys at any position. How much money do we have invested in Tupa? :oink:

crlesh
08-27-2005, 08:32 PM
Tupa is also a holder for John Hall during field goals. It may not sound like an important position, but I think having a reliable holder is crucial.

True, true. There must be some chemistry/trust between the holder and kicker. Maybe Groom can place too? In any event, I like the idea of the punter holding for the kicker rather than one of our QBs holding.

BossHog
08-27-2005, 09:38 PM
Who was holding last night? No problems there. :oink:

BigSKINBauer
08-27-2005, 11:10 PM
What are the Cap numbers like i mean i am sure we can get a trade for Toop but I like Tupa so much more. Is his injury THAT serious i think it is just because it is preseason, otherwise he would be playing. I don't claim to know much about Groom but i don't know anyone who can drop the ball inside the 10 much like toop.

BrudLee
08-28-2005, 12:18 AM
What are the Cap numbers like i mean i am sure we can get a trade for Toop but I like Tupa so much more. Is his injury THAT serious i think it is just because it is preseason, otherwise he would be playing. I don't claim to know much about Groom but i don't know anyone who can drop the ball inside the 10 much like toop.
Tupa's a very good punter, but I doubt any sane GM would trade for him. It's rare these days that a punter or kicker gets signed to more thana two year deal anyway, so free agency is how they move around.

I don't think his "injury" is that serious on the face - he has a stiff back. The problem is that (and I hope I don't offend any 40 year olds out there) he's 40 freakin' years old! The recovery time slows, and the odds of his back stiffening up again are good. I don't think we should hold onto Tupa, and have to pick up punters on odd weeks when Father Time is giving him a kick in the ass.

MTK
08-28-2005, 12:29 AM
We could get a first rounder for Tupa, easy

;)

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
08-28-2005, 01:19 AM
We could get a first rounder for Tupa, easy

;)

Are you joking? A first round pick? We could get at least two first rounders. :biggthump

SKINSnCANES
08-28-2005, 04:00 PM
Normally, I'd say Tupa. His experience as a starting QB gives us a better opportunity to run fakes - and even if we don't the other team must respect that.

But...

Tupa is a 40 year old with back problems. He also costs more. You have to go with the kid here.


I wanted us to run a fake punt all year last year and we didnt try it once. Had Gibbs actually ran a few trick plays id be more in favor of keeping Tupa. He was amazing for us last year, which was a nice change of pace after the last few years of inconsistent punting. I like Grooms young leg but I worry that he will have the occasional pooch punt like we got used to, and they prove very costly.

Im going to vote for Groom right now just because tupa is hurt, otherwise id saly stick with the guy that should have been in the probowl last year.

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