Thoughts on the game

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skinsguy
08-21-2005, 03:21 PM
I think Offiss was referring to D. McCants.

offiss
08-21-2005, 05:16 PM
I think that Ramsey is going to have to get used to McCants not being there. I don't think Gibbs is delibaretly trying to sabotage Ramsey or shake his confidence


I don't think so either, I just think he's being a little stubborn [Gibbs] I believe he doesn't want to reward a player for not being totally committed and send the wrong message to the rest of the team, and that is if your not totally committed you can still succeed, but if that's the case after 2 years then I think it's either time to play him, or cut him, which very well may happen, Ramsey may have a little trouble seeing the smaller recievers, which means get McCant's in there, or perhaps let him take a deeper drop to help him with his visiblity downfield, bottom line last pre-season McCants was our best reciever, and guess what? That didn't amount to anything as far as Gibbs was concerned, now he can't sniff the first team, all I can say is this whenever D-mac was in the game something good happen's between him and Ramsey.

I used to coach both football and baseball [13 to 15 yrs old] and occasionally I would run into a kid who was very good but really a detrament to the team as far as his attitude, usually it was the fact that he was a clown and wouldn't take thing's as serious as I would like, and he would pass that on to the rest of the team, I would ride kid's like this, and I would let them know although I wouldn't let their talent be misplaced because of a personal grudge, they would have a very short leash, because IMO without focus and commitment success is fleeting and it's only a matter of time before they fall, and I think that's pretty much what's going on between Gibbs and McCant's, although Gibbs know's he's talented, he doesn't want to reward him for his lack of committment, but the time has come either learn to live with it, or cut him, I don't see any in betweens with McCants anymore.

diehardskin2982
08-21-2005, 11:48 PM
To me Ramsey was better this week than in week one. I still prefer Rock over Nemo. I was proud of the rookie 1st pick. He only got burned because of fatigue, they sent 3 fresh recievers back to back on him. Brunnel look very much improved and he could show ramsey a little about footwork his was excellent. pressure was on and nemo fumbled, not good from a compitition standpoint. Gibbs learned from the lessons of preseason last year, save ur starters. The defense to me played a little less than solid agianst the run. D line need to step up next game. last but not least patten looked very good, he may become a steal.

sportscurmudgeon
08-22-2005, 12:15 AM
I just now watched the full game via TiVo. Here are some observations:

1. I think Mark Brunell is not nearly as bad as I thought he was last year. It must have been injuries that made him stink out the city then because he played decently against Cincy.

2. Patrick Ramsey is not a whole lot more mature as a QB now than he was at the end of last year. He still makes "bad decisions" and he still makes some bad throws. (NOTE: I didn't say he would never get better; I merely observed that against the Bengals he was "the same old Patrick Ramsey")

3. Rock Cartwright and Nehemiah Broughton are "fighting to see who will be the third down back". Here's the deal. Cut both of these lumps of mediocrity and bring back a 35-40 year old Brian Mitchell to fill that role. Even at that age, Mitchell is superior to either of those jamokes.

4. There is not NEARLY enough pressure on the passer generated by the DL.

5. The OL is 100% more effective in its pass blocking than last year. I never saw anyone get past Jansen all night...

6. The OL is 50% more effective in its run blocking than last year.

7. If you love Darnarian McCants, get him to autograph a jersey for you now because absent an injury to Kevin Dyson, he's not likely to be here in Washington much beyond Labor Day.

8. McCune can play LB. He may be the latter-day version of Sam Mills.

9. Boschetti absolutely dominated the guy in front of him in the late 3rd Q and early 4th Q. Is that because the guy in front of him was a stiff who will be outta town next week? Or is it that Boschetti is turning into a quality DL?

JWsleep
08-22-2005, 01:35 AM
Ah! About time someone rained on the Nemo/Rock-parade. Ok. I'm not a Rock supporter particularly, given our short-yardage woes last year. But what of Nemo did you see that convinced you that he is a "jamoke"? What was hidden in the tea-leaves of your TiVo? (Don't think B-Mitch is gonna suit up...)

That Guy
08-22-2005, 02:15 AM
9. Boschetti absolutely dominated the guy in front of him in the late 3rd Q and early 4th Q. Is that because the guy in front of him was a stiff who will be outta town next week? Or is it that Boschetti is turning into a quality DL?

with the blocked FG and coaches mentions and all, i'd say its probably because he's a keeper.

MTK
08-22-2005, 08:28 AM
What have Rock and Nemo done to get ragged on?

They've both played very well this preseason.

I'm scratching my head on this one, SC.

Kope
08-22-2005, 08:44 AM
3. Rock Cartwright and Nehemiah Broughton are "fighting to see who will be the third down back". Here's the deal. Cut both of these lumps of mediocrity and bring back a 35-40 year old Brian Mitchell to fill that role.

Dont think Mich fits the bill even in his heyday. Mich is HoF no question - just not as a goaline / short yardage back.

Imo the whole offseason (roster wise) was directed at getting more physical at the point of attack (special teams) from Rabach to Nemo, White to the plethora of TEs we have brought in, they are here to knock to folks off the ball (just about everyone inculding these guys is good at special teams). And that specific physicalness (don't think that is a word...but you get the point) at the point of attack is why Nemo wins and Mich, as great as he was, is not what we need.

sportscurmudgeon
08-23-2005, 07:43 PM
Matty:

You know that I have thought for a long time now that Rock Cartwright is nothing more than a special teamer for a good NFL team. I have seen nothing to change that assessment in the first two pre-season games.

Remember on 4th and 1, when Rock went for minus 5? He has done that a lot of times inside the 5 in the last year so I'd prefer not to have him handling the ball when it is absolutely necessary to gain 1-2 yards. He aspires to mediocrity as a RB; the Skins need more than that.

Nemo hustles and plays hard, but he goes down with the first hit - once even from a CB who dodged a block and had no momentum going into Nemo as the hit was made. At 250, Nemo outweighs a CB by 50-70 lbs and that was where I expect a quality back to break the tackle. He hasn't shown me that he can't get better since he hasn't been here very long, so between the two I'd keep him. But I'd prefer that there were someone else to choose from.


JWSleep:

I know Brian Mitchell isn't coming back. But it would not surprise me to find out that he can still play 3rd down back beter than either of these guys. Now Otis Wonsley is a different story; don't try to bring him back; he's about 3 years too old!

SUNRA
08-23-2005, 09:49 PM
if you were there, you should remember it was 3 ints ;)

I just think people are jumping the gun... brunell went 2-4 had a 50% completion rate and was throwing for under 100yards a game last year. I really think we should chill and let ramsey have his shot, the running game is good, the oline is improved, the scheme looks remarkably better than the crap we ran last year, and our defene is still good. If decisions are his problem, experience and film study is the easiest solution. He's not as lead footed as bledsoe, he doesn't have a noodle arm... The team around him is pretty good now it seems. Let's see how he does at least until the bye week. If he's absolutely killing us, there's an entire week and 0-2 isn't imposible to overcome... though if we lose to the bears something is obviously really wrong.


I got the hell out of there after the 2nd INT. Thanks for reminding me of how bad Ramsey played against the Giants. My prediction. If Ramsey turns the ball over for any reason in the next two pre-season games, there should not be a QB controversy. We who love the Redskins should line up outside FEDex Field and not let Ramsey's ass through the gate. Time is not on his side at this point. If he's worried about losing his spot moreso than building a future hear in Washington, which I'm sure he doesn't want to do, he will continue to struggle in the near future. The presence of Musrgrave reveals that Gibbs isn't ready to give up on Brunell just yet.

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