Pats should start Flutie

we just need basics like man open, completion, first down. I think Spurrier coached him up too much.. He thinks too much

joethiesmanfan,

There are more than a few Ramsey fans on this site. It's probably to be expected that a good portion of Redskins fans would be "enamored" with the Redskins starting quarterback. But rather than bore you with obvious factiods like that, I'll bore you with statistics.

His rating for the season last year was 74.8, but if you factor out the disasterous relief appearance in week 2, that bumps up to a more respectable 79.9. As a starter last year, his rating was 82.6 (week 11 on). Those are decent numbers when one considers that he didn't practice with the starters for over half the season, and it wasn't exactly an offense geared toward gaudy passing numbers.

The question shouldn't be "What can Ramsey do to gain the team's trust?", but rather "What did he do to lose it?".

By the way, it's spelled "Theismann".

His numbers looked good but I still felt like we were lucky to get a first down and I don't think anything was wrong with coach Gibbs offense.

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you say theimato i say thiemato

His numbers looked good but I still felt like we were lucky to get a first down and I don't think anything was wrong with coach Gibbs offense.

Think the first down thing might be why we now have new recievers? If PR plays like he did last year we will win 10 games. If he plays a little bit better we will win the division.

I think what will be apparent by game 4 of the regular season is how much better we are as a team, across the board.

Most important thing about PR is the team believs in him.

well if the team believes in him i do I will be the first one to jump on his wagon. I was so happy when he took over for brunnell last year.

By the way, it's spelled "Theismann".

lol, I almost said it, but I held back.

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you say theimato i say thiemato
Well played.

Well it's not like I am a Norman Einstein or something

We are not babing the person who played 5 good games at the end of the year. No way that we just throw brunnel back in just so quickly, this is really surprising me, cmon i know it is fun to talk about it but really this is PR's last chance and if he is taken out he is gone and next year it is Brunnel and Campbell with no draft pick. I can't believe some people are ready to take out Ramsey, i respect the opinion but i just can't believe it. One interception. YES it was a horrible interception but had he made that pass(that he says slipped off his hand) we would be happy because he would be in the upper 90 yards, and 9/12



This is a good point. Regardless of how "happy" his feet looked, would we even be HAVING this discussion if he would have completed that bomb to Moss? My guess is all would have been forgiven, as all will be forgiven tonight if he throws one touchdown pass or leads one touchdown drive.

Obviously, I like Ramsey. He's a character guy with a solid work ethic. Moreover, he's got all the "tangibles" to make it in this league. What he needs to work on are the "intangibles."

The "intangibles" are developed through experience - something he hasn't been given yet. Ramsey has started 23 games. The other two first round QBs from 2002 have more experience (Harrington and Carr have both started over 43 games) and have worse stats than Ramsey. I would just like to see the Redskins front office and fans give Ramsey the same shot those other QBs have gotten.

Do I think he'll be a Hall of Famer? No, I highly doubt it. But I think he's got what it takes to be a very successful QB. Troy Aikman talked about Ramsey last night during the Patriots-Saints game. Troy said he thinks Ramsey has what it takes to be a very good quarterback, but the constant turnover in D.C. has inhibited his growth. I agree.