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BrudLee 08-19-2005, 08:53 AM see even the viks won a game in the playoffs but i completly understand that they are doing what we have been critized for but the cowF#@s had the same record as us and most of the media feels they are much better for some reason, atleast the people at SI feel that way
It's that "Parcells glow" - that's the only explanation.
The 2004 Cowboys lost 10 games. Seven of those games were by 14 points or more.
The 2004 Redskins lost 10 games. Seven of those games were by 7 points or less.
That's an indicator of something.
Riggo44 08-19-2005, 10:55 AM It's that "Parcells glow" - that's the only explanation.
The 2004 Cowboys lost 10 games. Seven of those games were by 14 points or more.
The 2004 Redskins lost 10 games. Seven of those games were by 7 points or less.
That's an indicator of something.
Great point Brudlee. I wish someone in the national media could figure that one out. :dallas:
D'BOYZ 08-19-2005, 12:12 PM OK I usually don't agree with Dr. Z and I really don't like peter King but I do like the Ferguson pick this year. Now your critizising the same writers that predicted last year that your team will reach the playoff just because they sign Gibbs and thought it would have the same effect Parcell had with D'Boyz hey even Snyder thought so otherwise he wouldn't had brought him in the first place.
Second those where the same guys who praised and declared the Portis deal as the best deal the skins have made and I do believe Portis was an excellent pick, and critizise the brunell pick not so much because of brunell but because of the amount of money they payed him. Wich we can agree is a lot for a BACKUP and posible in a future, a 3rd QB. We all know brunell will be gone at season ends if not earlier, that's money going to the toilet.
And again this are the same media guys who praised every year the free agent moves that Snyder did Sanders, B.Smith and on and on........ and said "this is the year that the Redskins are going to the playoff" and even sometimes said they were going to the superball some of them. Sorry if they changed their mind and they're are a little skeptical about Snyder and the Skins but can you blame them, they have to prove something first.
Now they're only saying that Finally Jones spend some money remember this is the same owner that last year with cap space and in need of a cb didn't went for 1 or drafted 1 because they thought a 4th rounder who isn't on the team anymore was a capable starter.
They're only saying that he finally went for the players he wanted and didn't wanted to get the cheap 1 or the leftovers wich was the strategy years before, hey we didn't pick Berry last year because he cost 2 mill more of a signing bonus than Wiley and we all know how that turn out. Now can this all backfire YES it can; Ferguson, Rivera, Henry and Bledsoe can all suck at the end but did the Boy'z did a good move of going for the players they wanted they did hey Bledsoe came cheap if he doesn't turn out right it won't hurt me as much as the Brunell deal.
Now I still don't get the Campbell draft trade you could have get him in the second round or maybe move a little closer in the second round didn't had to go to the first round 2 get him becasue after the trade that was before the draft everyone new they did it to get campbell and still no team tryed to move infront of you in the draft to get him.
That tells me nobody thought he was worth that high, hey even rodgers wen't untill the 24th spot 1 before campbell.
I'm not critizising the pick I do believe campbell its better than Rodgers (way overated) but I believe you pay to much for him.
Daseal 08-19-2005, 12:20 PM I think the Campbell pick, while I like the guy, was a bad decesion. I personally don't like a coach playing the role of GM no matter who it is. I think coaches need to concentrate on player motivation and gameplanning, not contracts and scouting. Anyhow, I think Gibbs is still stuck in the era where you can sit a young QB on the bench and let him learn. However, money in today's NFL rarely allows for that. Unfortunately, Brunell and Gibbs are butt-buddies so I don't know if he'll cut him after this year or not. It seems like I could suit up every Sunday as long as I go to church with the right people...
Campbell is in DC to be the quarterback of the future. Unfortunately, it comes at the price of running Ramsey out of town. I have a feeling the next couple years are for Ramsey to up his trade value for his next contract. I like Campbell as a QB. He's mobile enough for defenses to plan for it, but he has an okay arm with good touch. Ramsey still hasn't been given a legitimate shot in Gibbs system and I truley question if he will ever get that shot. I don't know why Gibbs hates him so, but the way he was handcuffed last year made me livid. I really hope that Gibbs opens up that playbook, which looked updated in pre-season game 1 (thank god!) and really let Ramsey use his natural skills instead of trying to hammer the circle peg into the square hole.
backrow 08-19-2005, 12:38 PM I dont mind when people are critical of the Redskins. I dont mind when they are REALLY critical about the Redskins. But, when they are hypocritical about the Redskins, it really, really pisses me off.
Hopefully we don't find any of the hypocrites in here. We might have to ban them. By the way, who left the door open to let DaBoyz in? Note #1. to Daboyz: it's spelled c o w r o i d s or c o w g i r l z. Note # 2, can you please edit your posts prior to submittal, so we do not need the polish/coocamunga/english translator in order to read your post? It only furthers the idea that c o w r o i d s are i l l i t e r a t e (can't read or write!). Note # 3, I spelled your rightly assigned acronym slowly so you could understand it easier! Note #4, can you please add last names of c o w r o i d players, since we do not visit their open holed stadium (read toilet bowl) but once a year, and they, likewise only one time per year to our place?
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Redskins_P 08-19-2005, 12:55 PM It seems like I could suit up every Sunday as long as I go to church with the right people...
Damn man....you really have something against Gibbs don't you?
Daseal 08-19-2005, 01:07 PM No, Redskins_P. I have nothing against him besides the fact that I can't find any other reason why Brunell played as long as he did.
Redskins_P 08-19-2005, 01:13 PM No, Redskins_P. I have nothing against him besides the fact that I can't find any other reason why Brunell played as long as he did.
Well in all fairness, Gibbs has always stuck by his starters till the bitter end. He did the same thing with Jay Schroeder.
Yes he made a mistake in keeping Brunell for so long, but at the same time I think he wanted to show Brunell his loyalty by keeping him for as long as possible. Now, if he does the same with Ramsey.....lets say he pulls Ramsey after week 5 and we have a losing record, will your opinion change? What I'm trying to say is....I believe Gibbs will stick with Ramsey as long as possible....just like he did with Brunell. I certainly believe that Ramsey will be given his fair shot.
It has nothing to do with religion or being "butt-buddies" as you put it.
Beemnseven 08-19-2005, 01:54 PM Now I still don't get the Campbell draft trade you could have get him in the second round or maybe move a little closer in the second round didn't had to go to the first round 2 get him becasue after the trade that was before the draft everyone new they did it to get campbell and still no team tryed to move infront of you in the draft to get him.
We didn't have a second round pick. Our next wasn't until the fourth round, and Campbell would have been long gone. As far as no other team trying to snatch him up before the #25 pick, you'd have to say that there was a team within that section of the draft that needed a QB.
D'BOYZ 08-19-2005, 02:04 PM Backrow I'm not going to get into an argument of so small value other that saying those are the LAST NAMES of the player and even owners so you can looked them up. Other than that it's just dumb trash talk.
Daseal I liked your points but I have to agree with Redskins_P, Gibbs is old school like Parcell and he plays the guy he thinks will give him the best shot to win and he thought Brunell was that guy.
I believed that he based his Ramsey jugment on tapes and lack of game expirience and remmember Brunell was a high priced signed player you can't give that high contract and bonus and bench the guy on the 3rd game.
I believe he did it when he acknowledge things weren't going to change.
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About the campbell trade :
Redskins Get
1st round, No. 25: Jason Campbell, QB (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2005/campbell_jason), Auburn
Broncos Get
3rd round, No. 76: Karl Paymah, CB (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2005/paymah_karl), Washington State
1st and 4th round in 2006
Don't you think you could have payed less to move into early or mids second round and not have to sell the farm?? is he really worth a 3rd, a 1st and 4th round??
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