Putting Things in Perspective

I maintain Ramsey more than likely will not become a prolific NFL passer. How in the world could anyone say "he's back to playing inconsistent" after one preseason game?? With all due respect, that's ridiculous. I should add, we shouldn't throw in the towel on the guy even if his entire preseason isn't all that great.

But....and this is a big "but" if Brunell continues to show sharpness and accuracy during preseason I think fans, even the ones who crucified him last year, will wonder in the back of their minds if he should get another shot at the starting job. I just hope Patrick Ramsey doesn't have it in the back of his mind!

Yeah that is the key, it was only one preseason game like Matty said. You can't really say Ramsey has played consistently or inconsistently so far this preseason. He hasn't had enough playing time to establish himself either way. Let's give him time to show us what he's got.

Now for me personally, I think I just tend to think a lot more highly of Mark Brunell than the average bear. It's not that I don't like Ramsey, I just like the idea of Mark Brunell after seeing how good his arm looked. Last year his arm looked like a noodle, but against the Panthers those balls were humming. I want to give Ramsey a chance, because I think he'll play well given his play at the end of last year. But I guess I just feel a lot better about our backup. I feel like we have two QBs capable of being a starter in this league. Hopefully Brunell keeps it up and shows that his arm against the Panthers wasn't a fluke.

Back to playing inconsistent?

8/12 for 77 yards isn't all that bad, granted I haven't seen the game but from what I've read it seems like he wasn't as bad as the kneejerk overreactions would indicate.

Let's at least give him the rest of the preseason before we say he's inconsistent or not. I see people (not on this forum necessarily) ready to toss in the towel after one preseason game.

Let me repeat that, one preseason game.

It seems like some people never learn this lesson, year after year people either get too excited or too down in the dumps during the preseason.


Matty I agree with your post, but if you ever get a chance to see the Carolina game you will notice what some people here are worried about.

Ramsey didn't look comfortable at all in pocket. He had "happy feet" and never really planted his feet when he threw the ball (which lead to overthrows). He had Patten open on a couple of occasions and he simply threw the ball over his head. It just seemed like he was often worried about the rush, and not focusing on just getting the ball out. Granted, we didn't have much of a running game, but I expected Ramsey to look much better, and to me he looked like the "spurrier version" of Ramsey.

Maybe it was first game jitters, but if I don't see a change come this Friday....I'm going to worry.

Yeah that is the key, it was only one preseason game like Matty said. You can't really say Ramsey has played consistently or inconsistently so far this preseason. He hasn't had enough playing time to establish himself either way. Let's give him time to show us what he's got.

Now for me personally, I think I just tend to think a lot more highly of Mark Brunell than the average bear. It's not that I don't like Ramsey, I just like the idea of Mark Brunell after seeing how good his arm looked. Last year his arm looked like a noodle, but against the Panthers those balls were humming. I want to give Ramsey a chance, because I think he'll play well given his play at the end of last year. But I guess I just feel a lot better about our backup. I feel like we have two QBs capable of being a starter in this league. Hopefully Brunell keeps it up and shows that his arm against the Panthers wasn't a fluke.

Honestly, last year was the first time I really had the chance to see Brunell play. I never saw him at Jacksonville. So I didn't have any thing to go on, but obviously my first impression wasn't good.

It's funny how we hear and write a lot of talk about how LaVar has a chip on his shoulder this year - I bet it pales in comparison to the one Brunell has on his this year. His motivation this year may be to simply prove to himself he's still NFL material and every snap he takes in practice, a scrimage, or even a preseason game he's playing to redeem his own conscience and show his worth. Think about it, he signs a big contract that most people feel he didn't live up to, me included, then get's booed for the remainder of the season, get's benched, restructures his contract (TO you should be reading this!), and loses his starting job to the guy he was brought here to replace.

Maybe that's good thread for someone to start...who has a bigger chip on their shoulder this year LaVar or Brunell? I don't know, these are just my silly theories of course:)

Honestly, last year was the first time I really had the chance to see Brunell play. I never saw him at Jacksonville. So I didn't have any thing to go on, but obviously my first impression wasn't good.

It's funny how we hear and write a lot of talk about how LaVar has a chip on his shoulder this year - I bet it pales in comparison to the one Brunell has on his this year. His motivation this year may be to simply prove to himself he's still NFL material and every snap he takes in practice, a scrimage, or even a preseason game he's playing to redeem his own conscience and show his worth. Think about it, he signs a big contract that most people feel he didn't live up to, me included, then get's booed for the remainder of the season, get's benched, restructures his contract (TO you should be reading this!), and loses his starting job to the guy he was brought here to replace.

Maybe that's good thread for someone to start...who has a bigger chip on their shoulder this year LaVar or Brunell? I don't know, these are just my silly theories of course:)

It's a good point about the chip on his shoulder, I'm sure he does have something to prove to himself. Also if things don't work out for him as a Redskin, he still wants to play QB in elsewhere. He's not ready to call it a career, so he needs to show other NFL teams what he can do.

In the 90's in Jacksonville he was nothing short of brilliant. He could really scramble, spread the ball around, saw the defense well, and had a knack for making plays when it really counted. So, as a vet with lots of experience, it's not like the guy is prone to making bad decisions as a QB.

But then in his last few years in Jacksonville he hurt his arm or elbow or something like that. I never got a real good feel for what kind of injury it was. I'm not saying he had Tommy John surgery or anything, but when pitchers have reconstructive elbow surgery it usually takes them 2 years to get their velocity back. AJ Burnett's success this year is a perfect example of that. I'm purely speculating here, but you have to wonder if Brunell's arm wasn't 100% last year, and now it's ready to roll again. The zip he had on the ball against Carolina was quite impressive. I'm not going to get too excited, because it was only one game. Just like I'm not going to get too down on Ramsey for only one game. But I am encouraged a bit.

I think Friday's game will be very interesting. Marvin probably still has somewhat of a book on Ramsey from his brief stint with us.

It will be very interesting to see how we react to Ramsey's play vs. Brunell and start to form opinions thereafter. I think the one thing we all have in common, however, is whether it's Ramsey, Brunell, or JC we just want the Skins to win - and that's the bottom line!!

I'm not so set on a win, even. I just want to see improvement in all aspects (which should equate to a win) and fewer/no penalties.

I'm not so set on a win, even. I just want to see improvement in all aspects (which should equate to a win) and fewer/no penalties.


No, no, I didn't mean a win this Friday, per se. We all want the Redskins to win....big picture win, not Friday preseason game win.

Ah, well, in that case. 19-0 this season and I'll consider the last decade or so forgiven.

Ah, well, in that case. 19-0 this season and I'll consider the last decade or so forgiven.

I'll second that:)