Putting Things in Perspective

wasnt the o-line amazing last year in pre-season too. and i think we all know what happened with that.

I watched the replay today and I have to say Ramsey didn't look good, 1 thing I did notice though is he looks much more comfortable in the shotgun, I know Gibbs pretty much hates the shotgun but it may be the way to go with Ramsey, he had an ugly overthrow on a out pattern to Patten when he was wide open which I noticed is a rarity, even when we complete passes it seems theres usually a defender right there forcing a perfect throw, it kind of seems the patterns they run are right at defenders, the secondary kind of just sits and waits for our recievers to get to them, it is tough to really see everything going on in the secondary on tv though.

Brunell had a couple of nice throws and he coupled that with balls going 10 yards out of bounds, and overthrowing WR's by 5 yards, I really wasen't overly encouraged by his performance [a couple of nice throws but the same old Brunell, his arm strength seemed better though]

As for Campbell he was the most impressive of the 3, allbeit it was the last half of the 4th and the bag boys were in on defense, he defiently looked by far the most accurate of the 3, he's not a fast guy but he can get out of the pocket to make a play, defiently similar to Big Ben, so far so good for JC.

As far as Ramsey goes he looks a shell of his former self back there, he looks like he's afarid to make a play for fear he will be banished to the bench for life if he tries and fails, IMO it looked like he was almost shotputting the ball, perhaps that's the result of Musgraves teaching him to put some touch on the ball? Well we will know more next week, hopefully!

I agree about Ramsey seeming to try to put more touch on his passes, like I said before, this whole touch thing is kinda new to a guy who has a rocket launcher for an arm.

Another posititve I thought was that we still had all three time-outs left at the end of the 1st half...

No it's not. Ramsey was handed the starting job in 2003. He lost the battle in preseason last year because he looked just as bad through 5 exhibition games as he did the other night against Carolina.

I'm sick of the excuses for Patrick Ramsey. It's time to freaking show us what he's got and start winning some games.

I dont know if anyone would consider anything that happened in 2003 legitimate. He had no run support, no line support, no protection, no coaching staff, and no job security. His coach wanted werfull (or however you spell it.) Last year was like his rookie season, because it was his first year in a controlled system of professional football. He got thrown to the dogs in the middle of last year, because Brunell couldnt throw past the LOS. Hell he couldnt throw behind it either. Hell he couldn't manage a handoff, or a center exchange. I recall Ramsey won a few games last year doing exactly what was asked of him. Ball control. Look at his turnovers after he won the starting job.

No one is making excuses for ramsey because no one sould have to after the first preseason game of the season. Believe me, he's our absolute best option out of what we have.

I just wish Ramsey would step up and settle this! It's gonna drive me nuts if we have to spend the next month bashing this back and forth--and if it bleeds into the season, oy.

giving up no sacks for 4 Qtr's IS A BIG DEAL

Yes it is. Especially when you consider how good the Panthers defense is and how much we passed the ball.

I just wish Ramsey would step up and settle this! It's gonna drive me nuts if we have to spend the next month bashing this back and forth--and if it bleeds into the season, oy.

It won't bleed into the season, becaus the main point that the people defending the guy are trying to make is that its the firs preseason game. Thats all. It doesn't mean shit, and if you watched any more football this weekend, most of the first stringers didn't look good. They're off their game.

Believe me if the guy is throwing ducks and picks on into the season, I'll be calling to bench him... but he's not. People are jumping the gun wayy to quick. I know this because I'm way too quick to call for a change when somethings not workin, and if he goes 4 for 20 with 4 picks in the last preseason game, I'll be worried.

I think alot of us are saying the same thing here, He DOES need to step up. I just support the guy as much as I can (with my puny existance) while he does it.

Obviously, one of the reasons everyone is so jumpy about this issue is tht we're so tired of not having a serious offensive team. I'm behind Ramsey 100%--it's just that everytime he doesn't go out there and light it up, I get more and more nervous... I know, I know, I should suck it up and stop worrying--but I cannot take losing to Dallas anymore. Or NY. Or Philly. Its driving me nuts!

So I too will support Ramsey as much as I can (with my even punier existence), but he better get his SH** straight soon, or I am going to loose it! We are the WASHINGTON REDSKINS, DAMN IT!!! Do not overthrow the sideline out or underthrow the friggin fly pattern! Step up and make the play! MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ARE DEPENDING ON YOU! :coach:

Whew! Rant over! :rant: Sorry about that! :rolleyes:

I agree about Ramsey seeming to try to put more touch on his passes, like I said before, this whole touch thing is kinda new to a guy who has a rocket launcher for an arm.

Another posititve I thought was that we still had all three time-outs left at the end of the 1st half...


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Great obsevation RED!

wasnt the o-line amazing last year in pre-season too. and i think we all know what happened with that.
Well...no they weren't. Jansen got hurt in the 1st preseason game last year and the line never recovered. Our O line is going to be very good. I didn't think the team as a whole looked very sharp, but it's one game and everyone was just poised to begin the bashing if we didn't put up 30 points. I saw this coming weeks in advance. NONE of it matters. Only thing I care about is Sept 11, week one, Redskins/Bears. When the bullets are live is when we'll really know what kind of team we have. I have a feeling that when the Washington Redskins march into Dallas on Monday night, week 2, our team will be frothing at the mouth and ready to put a smack down. Just a feeling... Keep the faith, gents and don't let a poor preseason suck all the air and enthusiasm out of you. Remember...these games, while showing us a little something, ultimately don't count.