Paintrain
08-15-2005, 05:59 PM
We Redskins fans are legendary for our lack of tolerance and patience (just ask Pastabelly, he'll tell you!) so how many mediocre/poor games for the following before you call for a change?
Ramsey
Dockery
Bowen
Harris
Brunell (assuming Ramsey gets replaced)
*Portis
Gibbs
*Portis was a late addition since some people wanted to trade him because Betts played well in the finale last year. *
celts32
08-15-2005, 06:07 PM
Ramsey-8 games. You need to have confidence in the backup before you call for the starters head.
Dockery-4 games
Bowen- 4 games
Harris- 2 games. As soon as Rogers is ready his leash is real short.
Brunell- A soon as the playoffs are out of reach.
Gibbs- NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER...
RedskinRat
08-15-2005, 06:50 PM
Ramsey - 5 weeks, but I'd want Campbell in. However I don't see Ramsey doing badly.
Dockery - 8
Bowen - 0, Bowen will be fine
Harris - Ahrris can stay, play Rodgers at nickleback until he's fully on the page.
Brunell (assuming Ramsey gets replaced) 0, I don't want to see him start again.
*Portis - He's our man, no need to change.
Gibbs - Heretic! another 4 years and Gregg takes over.
wordsmithgk
08-15-2005, 07:48 PM
Ramsey didn't show much. Perhaps Coach Gibbs knew what he had when he drafted the young quarterback. Ramsey may be the best that we have right now but that isn't saying too much--my confidence in his potential is waning. His performance was disappointing. He had open receivers and missed them badly Saturday night. Once the playoffs are out of reach put in Campbell and let him get real time experience.
EternalEnigma21
08-15-2005, 07:56 PM
Ramsey 6 REGULAR games. pre season doesn't count
Dockery 2 only if he really stinks it up
Bowen 4 only because he'll be injured by then anyway.
Harris 3 rogers has a lot of potential. Harris is too good at nickel
Brunell Please god don't wish this on us again
Portis/Gibbs- You can't lose faith in these guys. They're both winners and team
guys.
I am suprised (but glad, mind you) that you dont have LA on the list since there were so many fans wanting to trade him after last year. I guess since he's not down anymore we'll stop kicking him.
skinsguy
08-15-2005, 08:01 PM
I can't really comment on Harris until I see Carlos Rogers play. If Ramsey stinks it up after game three, I would have to go with Brunell...but I'm still having faith that Ramsey's th' man.
monk81
08-15-2005, 09:44 PM
Ramsey-5 games.......
Dockery--who do we replace him with.....I don't know if 42 year old Ray Brown can be a full time starter..........but I'd say 7 games........
Bowen-5 games
Harris- 4 games..hopefully Rogers will be ready if we need him to start
Portis---he's our main RB---even last year with an ineffective offense he still had a decent year in terms of yardage.........
Brunell-if we tank the season and Ramsey stinks, Brunell places him--Brunell stinks--then give the rookie Campbell some time in the regular season for next year but I hope and pray this
doesn't happen.........
Gibbs-IN GIBBS I TRUST-NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER
That Guy
08-15-2005, 10:55 PM
how about its all out of our hands... on portis, even when he's doing bad he's extremely good (for the most part)... his WORST year is 1300+ yards. betts is a capable replacement, but has been a bit fragile thusfar, and rock is a good backup, but not really a guy you'd feel comfortable starting unless you had peyton manning or daunte throwing for you.
Daseal
08-16-2005, 10:10 AM
Ramsey - The whole season. Can we let the man play without knowing someone else is barking on his heals the whole time. Some players respond to competition. Others don't do so well. Let's make our QB feel comfortable THEN see what he can do.
Dockery - A young player, he needs time to develop but that preseason game looked extremely promising. I say we try to keep these guys together as long as possible!
Bowen - Honestly, I hope he doesn't start. It depends how often he gets matched up in coverage and owned. Once that starts happening - pull him.
Harris - If he plays like he did in the preseason game -- not long. Rogers has all the talent in the world but he's still a rookie. I'm scared about our corner across from Springs. If Springs goes down so does our season. CBs are so important to Williams scheme. Thats the one position he can't turn nobodies into somebodies. Harris got rocked in the preseason game, and while things are vanilla man coverage is pretty simple. He just got abused.
Brunell (assuming Ramsey gets replaced) - If he's playing poorly, let's see Jason Campbell. If he's playing well he can go as long as he likes.
*Portis - With everything this guys proven he goes the year with Betts taking a few more snaps.
Gibbs - This year and next is my time line for him. Unless he hires a proven OC and hands playcalling duties over to him. Then he can stay forever.
Gmanc711
08-16-2005, 10:28 AM
Ramsey- Until were out of the playoff chase. And he has to be playing poorly as well. I'm with Dasel, this has been our problem in DC for years now, we dont let someone take the reigns as QB and always want to switch things up. I hope Ramsey plays the whole year, unless he's playing at a Brunellish level were he cant even get the ball into a recivers hands.
Dockery- Pretty much the same as Ramsey. I'd give him the whole year.
Bowen- 6 games. I personally think he is a good player, and I'm a fan of the guy. If he keeps getting burned though, he might have to sit down.
Harris- Until Rogers is ready to go. Period. If he's playing really really bad (which I dont think he will), I wouldnt mind seeing Wilds have a quick chance. However, I think Harris is going to be able to hold down the fort until Rogers is ready to step in.
Brunell (assuming Ramsey gets replaced)
*Portis - Give me a break, anyone who wants to trade this guy is crazy. If his guy sees the bench, someone is really messed up.
Gibbs - 8 games. I wont be calling for a new coach, though. I'd be calling for a new playcaller. I wouldnt want Gibbs the coach to ever be replaced, but if we call alot of the plays we did last year, consistantly, I'd want a new playcaller.
Overall, I'm a Redskins fan. I dont care who is on the feild, if "The Juice" OJ Simpson is suting up at tailback for us, and were winning games, thats fine by me. So if anyones playing poorly weather it be Ramsey, Cooley, Arrington, and their replacement is better, by all means let them go. That even means Brunell.