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FRPLG 08-12-2005, 05:40 PM So does anyone think the Eagles' personell strategy is in general showing it cracks? I mean they are reverred by everyone for not over paying for players and developing prospects but honestly what prospect have they developed besides the defensive side of the ball? Johnson (the DC) is clearly a monster. But apparently they can't generate any success in developing a WR (they had to go get head case TO) and the RB situation is clearly overrated. They haven't had a true quality tailback in years. Westbrook, while extremely talented, is a short and stocky WR playing tailback. They do seem to have some success at TE but really the only offensive weapon is McNabb who you can't say they "developed", he is just straight up good. All of sudden their practice of not paying guys what they deserve isn't working so great. They have holdouts and generally it seems players are getting more disgruntled every day. How long until this hits the Patriots? Or is this just my wishful thinking?
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FRPLG 08-12-2005, 05:43 PM I knew I'd crack (no pun intended...maybe) about the title.
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Davnpurt 08-12-2005, 06:28 PM It does seem though that every spring the Eagles are dealing w/ a contract dispute: Vincent, Hughes, Trotter, Simon, Ho. Thomas, Burgess, Tra Thomas, & now Owens.
PSUSkinsFan21 08-12-2005, 06:46 PM Actually, I would say they've done a good job of developing almost their entire offense. They've developed two good TEs (L.J. Smith and Chad Lewis), Duce Staley was a great back for his size and talent level when he was in Philly, Westbrook is a playmaker and has excelled because of the offensive system they run (west-coast), McNabb started out terribly for the first couple years, but has gotten better consistently each year, their O-line is consistently strong and many of those players are lifetime Eagles (in fact 4 of their 5 starters are lifetime Eagles.....Thomas, Hicks, Andrews, Fraley). Agreed, they've done nothing to develope any WRs, but overall I think they've done a great job of getting 100% out of almost every player that has come through their system.
Riggo44 08-12-2005, 07:03 PM Way to prop up the igles PSUSkinsfan21! :vomit-smi Are you a spy?? ;)
SeasonTicketHolder 08-12-2005, 07:46 PM The key to stopping the eagles is stopping Brian Westbrook, not T.O. Whenever Westbrook is on the field, good things happen for the Eagles. I wish we would treat Portis more like Westbrook, having him catch screens and all that. That alone would make the offense much better.
JWsleep 08-12-2005, 08:28 PM I hate the iggles--but they are good at all phases of the game, and they have been for a few years now. I'm psyched if there's team turmoil, and they are not as good without TO, but they're the team to beat, mainly becuase of McNabb and their D. THey've had a stable coaching staff for a long time, and it shows. And McNabb has gotten better and better--and he makes big plays to win games. ANd Reid is good as well--he's won with feeley in there, without TO, without RBs, etc.
Still, every little bit helps here! A little distraction here, a loss of focus there, and in the NFL, someone passes you by. Man, am I going to be happy when we beat them down.
Daseal 08-12-2005, 08:41 PM the only offensive weapon is McNabb who you can't say they "developed", he is just straight up good.
I'm curious to see how "good" McNabb is when TO isn't around scooping passes off the ground. He's a decent playmaker with his feet, but he's far from accurate. The Eagles offense relies so much on the passing game and big plays (they passed 12% more on first down than the 2nd ranked team) that without TO and Pinkston (as bad as he is) I don't think they can continue.
Here's what I wonder about the Eagles front office. TO isn't the first player to make accusations to say that the front office says don't worry about it, after the season we'll give you x, y, and z. Then come back and don't fulfill their promises. I wouldn't be suprised if they said we'll pay you but let's just get this deal done so you can get into camp. Which is why he completely ignored the NFL PA, etc. I think we can all admit that coming out of SF he DIDN'T get fair market value for a WR of his ability. Now, this fiasco with the Eagles has certainly dropped what he's worth, but I question if the Eagles FO doesn't like to make verbal deals then say NU UH.
That said, I'm not defending TOs actions at all, the way he's gone about this has been abominable. I just think the Eagles FO is more to blame than we're being lead to believe.
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